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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: PCN ticket on July 28, 2024, 10:16:23 pm

Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: PCN ticket on July 29, 2024, 11:27:12 pm
Thank you all, I will send it off with the drivers details.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: NewJudge on July 29, 2024, 03:32:18 pm
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At the risk of appearing pedantic and/or for the benefit of the hive mind, the 28 days to provide the required information begin with the date of service - in other words, it's 27 days from the date of service.
Thank you, Andy. You explained this in another thread about a week ago and I'd forgotten already!   :)
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: andy_foster on July 29, 2024, 12:55:30 pm
This letter is dated 2nd July. When did you receive it?

You have only until this coming Thursday to get your response back to the police. Later than that and you commit an offence which carries six points.

At the risk of appearing pedantic and/or for the benefit of the hive mind, the 28 days to provide the required information begin with the date of service - in other words, it's 27 days from the date of service.

If the case isn't nearing timeout, the police do not usually prosecute for the s. 172 offence if an otherwise acceptable response is received a day or two late - but if there is time to comply with the legal requirement, there is little point risking it, or leaving it to an incorrectly calculated "last minute".
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: The Rookie on July 29, 2024, 11:19:31 am
Camera flashes aren't always that obvious with more modern cameras unlike the old GATSO.  They clearly took a photo of your car or wouldn't know it was there.
Pretty sure this section is covered by average speed cameras, therefore no flash would have happened.
They are indeed, don't go that way often (like once in the last 15 years) and there is an issue using streetview on that road when I tried to find them.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: FuzzyDuck on July 29, 2024, 09:19:51 am
Camera flashes aren't always that obvious with more modern cameras unlike the old GATSO.  They clearly took a photo of your car or wouldn't know it was there.
Pretty sure this section is covered by average speed cameras, therefore no flash would have happened.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: The Rookie on July 29, 2024, 08:29:52 am
I don’t think the limit was 30 and don’t remember the location.
That's a bit of a contradiction!

I don’t remember getting flashed by the camera
Camera flashes aren't always that obvious with more modern cameras unlike the old GATSO.  They clearly took a photo of your car or wouldn't know it was there.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: NewJudge on July 29, 2024, 08:14:09 am
This letter is dated 2nd July. When did you receive it?

You have only until this coming Thursday to get your response back to the police. Later than that and you commit an offence which carries six points.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: 666 on July 29, 2024, 07:33:10 am
After you respond naming the driver, you will be offered a speed awareness course (if you haven't done one in the previous three years) or a fixed penalty - £100 and three points.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: The Slithy Tove on July 29, 2024, 07:19:46 am
Please advise
You do as it says and nominate the driver. That is your obligation regardless of your recall or observational skills.
Title: Re: Speeding on A40
Post by: morris-man on July 28, 2024, 10:26:13 pm
Definitely a 30 limit, here are the 30 signs as you enter the elevated section (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5150904,-0.2281223,3a,75y,84.62h,86.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSSrtbRT7n6nN0QhOhmVe-w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DSSrtbRT7n6nN0QhOhmVe-w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D84.62382809838351%26pitch%3D3.037825030568385%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu)
Title: Speeding on A40
Post by: PCN ticket on July 28, 2024, 10:16:23 pm
Hello,
I got a letter informing me that I was speeding do 35 on a 30 limit but I don’t remember getting flashed by the camera and I don’t think the limit was 30 and don’t remember the location.
Please advise I have attached the letter
Thanks
https://ibb.co/4Y18HXW