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General discussion => The Flame Pit => Topic started by: guest303 on July 26, 2023, 04:44:42 pm

Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Neil B on March 18, 2024, 03:53:51 am
My bad, didn't realise that the link was user specific. Corrected link for unlucky user 13.
I'd figured that much out for myself but still couldn't figure out how to change.

Turned out it didn't change immediately (?) but now has. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: andy_foster on March 17, 2024, 01:56:17 pm
My bad, didn't realise that the link was user specific. Corrected link for unlucky user 13.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Neil B on March 17, 2024, 01:03:22 pm
Have you tried changing the time settings on your profile?

https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=theme;u=10
I'm lost as to how your link tells me how to change anything?

I must be thick.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: andy_foster on March 16, 2024, 10:57:32 pm
Have you tried changing the time settings on your profile?

https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=theme;u=13

Where u is your member number - in your case 13
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Neil B on March 16, 2024, 08:42:23 pm
Just bringing this back up again as it still persists.
While we are discussing trivial aesthetic considerations, is there a way to get the time to display properly. You have leading zeros before 10am (or 1000hrs) on the 24 hour clock, not on the 12 hour clock. There is no such time as 01:30 p.m. (and 01:30 a.m. whilst not ambiguous is also wrong).

edit: Time format can be set to 24h in Profile -> Look and layout
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=theme
100% agree. There are no such times with a zero before single digit pm times.

And what is the need for the seconds.

Sorry to obsess but it is REALLY irritating all round, as well as potentially causing confusion.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: cp8759 on August 09, 2023, 10:56:47 pm
Done.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Tikli Chestikov on August 09, 2023, 04:45:31 pm
Et voila?

There's a couple of elements styling that contributes to that white gap, that's 2px, 1px is slightly thinner but there's no middle ground  ;D

Better.

Much better.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: sparxy on August 08, 2023, 10:46:39 pm
cp or other admins, in the style manager find the current style and modify it. Add this to the end of the CSS file (after the last closing brace of the a#back-to-top section)

Code: [Select]
#forumposts .post_separator {
background-color: var(--main-content-bg);
display: block;
margin-bottom: 10px;
}

That should work (it does on my test CAF forum)
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Southpaw82 on August 08, 2023, 04:39:49 pm
Fine by me.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: John U.K. on August 08, 2023, 02:20:32 pm
That Screenshot is a VAST improvement ifm CP & or SP agree.  :)
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: sparxy on August 08, 2023, 01:31:42 pm
Et voila?

There's a couple of elements styling that contributes to that white gap, that's 2px, 1px is slightly thinner but there's no middle ground  ;D

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Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: John U.K. on August 08, 2023, 09:19:54 am
Just widen the white gap between posts 6 or 8 points.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Weasel on August 08, 2023, 08:39:09 am
Here's my 0.02p

Tikli's suggestion seems a bit extreme, but it does illustrate the point
Sparx's idea of a slightly more pronounced separator is a little too subtle

Maybe something in between?
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: sparxy on August 07, 2023, 11:19:33 pm
You could do something like that, but I think it makes it look a bit more cluttered IMO.

FYI: The line under the title of each post is actually blue, sp's fav ;D

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Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: DancingDad on August 06, 2023, 10:42:19 pm
Funnily enough the hard line under post title throws me more then the white line that divides posts.
Not enough to bovver me though.

Nor did the clock till Andy mentioned it
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Tikli Chestikov on August 06, 2023, 05:20:41 pm
Aesthetic or otherwise, this looks much better:

https://ibb.co/L69kBVR
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: andy_foster on August 05, 2023, 10:20:28 pm
While we are discussing trivial aesthetic considerations, is there a way to get the time to display properly. You have leading zeros before 10am (or 1000hrs) on the 24 hour clock, not on the 12 hour clock. There is no such time as 01:30 p.m. (and 01:30 a.m. whilst not ambiguous is also wrong).

edit: Time format can be set to 24h in Profile -> Look and layout
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=theme
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: cp8759 on August 05, 2023, 05:50:17 pm
First post here, the site seems very well put together and a vast improvement on Pepipoo.

One gripe - the posts all seem to merge into one; they need to be separated with a black line.
If sparx tells me how to fix it, I will.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: Tikli Chestikov on August 05, 2023, 03:50:48 pm
First post here, the site seems very well put together and a vast improvement on Pepipoo.

One gripe - the posts all seem to merge into one; they need to be separated with a black line.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: andy_foster on July 27, 2023, 09:30:47 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: DWMB2 on July 27, 2023, 09:28:42 pm
Everyone happy now?
Too big  ;)
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: cp8759 on July 27, 2023, 09:16:09 pm
Everyone happy now?
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: guest303 on July 27, 2023, 02:02:42 pm
Should be nothing harder than a simple css change in the theme. Unfortunately I don't know what features CAF provide in that regard (whether it's a fixed theme you cannot change, or whether you can customise it).

Edit: For the admins, there is a "Style Manager" in the Administration Centre. If you go in there, you can't edit the default style directly but you can create a new one.

For the quotes, if you do that, then find this section:

Code: [Select]
blockquote.bbc_alternate_quote,
blockquote.bbc_standard_quote {
 padding: 15px 10px;
 border-style: solid;
 border-width: 0 0 3px;
 border-color: #b5c4cc;
 background-color: #e0eef6;
 color: #768094;
}

The "color" value is the text colour, in hex, but you can also use css colour names too, https://www.quackit.com/css/css_color_codes.cfm

If you add a "font-size" item, you can also change the font size.

Code: [Select]
    color: black;
    font-size: small;

Then just need to "Pick" the style back on the style manager page. If you make a mistake just delete the new style and it should revert to the default.

"Should be nothing harder than a simple css change in the theme",,,,, and that is where you lost me, I'm a gears/pulleys and chains man myself  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: sparxy on July 27, 2023, 01:27:15 pm
Should be nothing harder than a simple css change in the theme. Unfortunately I don't know what features CAF provide in that regard (whether it's a fixed theme you cannot change, or whether you can customise it).

Edit: For the admins, there is a "Style Manager" in the Administration Centre. If you go in there, you can't edit the default style directly but you can create a new one.

For the quotes, if you do that, then find this section:

Code: [Select]
blockquote.bbc_alternate_quote,
blockquote.bbc_standard_quote {
padding: 15px 10px;
border-style: solid;
border-width: 0 0 3px;
border-color: #b5c4cc;
background-color: #e0eef6;
color: #768094;
}

The "color" value is the text colour, in hex, but you can also use css colour names too, https://www.quackit.com/css/css_color_codes.cfm

If you add a "font-size" item, you can also change the font size.

Code: [Select]
    color: black;
    font-size: small;

Then just need to "Pick" the style back on the style manager page. If you make a mistake just delete the new style and it should revert to the default.

Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: John U.K. on July 27, 2023, 10:36:43 am
The major "readability" issue I have is that the the quoted text is far too small (to read at a comfortable distance using a TV as a monitor). Whilst this may be beneficial when neurodiverse posters bloat quote, it tends to defeat the intended purpose of quoting.

Otherwise, change always involves a learning curve. Such is life.

I whole-heartedly support an increase in the font size for quoted text.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: guest303 on July 26, 2023, 07:53:32 pm
Also how do I reply to a comment, there doesn't semm to be a reply button to press to just comment direct.
You can quote posts as I'm doing here (see the 'Quote' button top right of the post you want to quote). That serves essentially the same purpose, and works the same way as the quote function on PePiPoo.

Quote
Overall it appears 'cheap' with the comment being replied to being virtually unreadable with the blue background for one.
It is cheap - it was made using free software as far as I know (quite understandably given it's been set up by volunteers). In my personal view as long as it serves its purpose in helping folks out with motoring issues what it looks like isn't that important. PePiPoo running on fairly ancient software isn't exactly a thing of beauty. Although you're right that the quotes aren't the most readable, a greater contrast between the text and background, and/or a larger font, might help here.


I think I'm getting the hang of it.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: andy_foster on July 26, 2023, 07:23:55 pm
The major "readability" issue I have is that the the quoted text is far too small (to read at a comfortable distance using a TV as a monitor). Whilst this may be beneficial when neurodiverse posters bloat quote, it tends to defeat the intended purpose of quoting.

Otherwise, change always involves a learning curve. Such is life.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: DWMB2 on July 26, 2023, 07:08:19 pm
Also how do I reply to a comment, there doesn't semm to be a reply button to press to just comment direct.
You can quote posts as I'm doing here (see the 'Quote' button top right of the post you want to quote). That serves essentially the same purpose, and works the same way as the quote function on PePiPoo.

Quote
Overall it appears 'cheap' with the comment being replied to being virtually unreadable with the blue background for one.
It is cheap - it was made using free software as far as I know (quite understandably given it's been set up by volunteers). In my personal view as long as it serves its purpose in helping folks out with motoring issues what it looks like isn't that important. PePiPoo running on fairly ancient software isn't exactly a thing of beauty. Although you're right that the quotes aren't the most readable, a greater contrast between the text and background, and/or a larger font, might help here.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: guest303 on July 26, 2023, 05:05:30 pm
Also how do I reply to a comment, there doesn't semm to be a reply button to press to just comment direct. I'm trying to reply to you direct dmwb2.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: guest303 on July 26, 2023, 05:03:00 pm
Overall it appears 'cheap' with the comment being replied to being virtually unreadable with the blue background for one.
Title: Re: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: DWMB2 on July 26, 2023, 04:50:52 pm
It's the format used by the software that powers the forum.

Which bits of the formatting make it difficult for you to follow? If there are common issues shared by other users, the admins may be able to take some steps to address it (depending on the limitations of the software of course).
Title: Hard to read or follow.
Post by: guest303 on July 26, 2023, 04:44:42 pm
Is this the new format for the new Pepipoo 2.0?



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