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Title: Re: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: goldenblader on July 29, 2024, 10:37:29 am

Hey FTLA forum, any more ideas for this or should I go ahead and pay the fine?

Title: Re: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: goldenblader on July 21, 2024, 08:55:27 am

Thanks Mr chips, I'll wait for others reply before doing anything

Title: Re: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: MrChips on July 19, 2024, 05:28:32 pm

Really struggling to think of a strong (or any!) defence on this one.  Best I've got is that your vehicle doesn't seem to stop for much continuous time.  For a contravention, you have to stop behind a stationary vehicle.  If you watch the video through, there are very few moments when both your vehicle and the one in front are simultaneously at complete rest.  But if you look hard enough there are some brief occasions and, in the context of the video which looks pretty damning overall, that's probably going to be sufficient to demonstrate the contravention.

Maybe some bright ideas might be generated by others.

Title: Re: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: goldenblader on July 19, 2024, 04:44:38 pm

Hello again Mr Chips, I appreciate the help.

(https://i.imgur.com/7RWlWAq.jpeg)

Title: Re: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: MrChips on July 19, 2024, 04:36:44 pm

Which is your vehicle?

Title: Cardiff, (31) in a box junction when prohibited, Leckwith Gyratory Junc/of A4232 Slip Road & Leckwith Road
Post by: goldenblader on July 19, 2024, 03:07:16 pm

Hey everyone at FTLA forum! Hope everyone is doing great.

Cardiff is on a hype train busting out these yellow box PCN.

Notice Number: QC86877208
Vehicle Registration: YS05DKL

My point view it looked like traffic was flowing, hence I went ahead but ended up stopping in the Box.

Do I have a case here?

Appreciate all the help I can get.

PCN: (https://i.imgur.com/hyrDmnc.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/owJaHsT.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gl5D5YP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NI5iyqT.jpeg)

https://youtu.be/ln6IsIpMJ4M

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GcKvygjztcrU5g8P8