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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: loeys__ on June 29, 2024, 11:44:10 pm

Title: Re: UKCPM (ANPR) Residential Car Park Change to E-permit
Post by: H C Andersen on June 30, 2024, 11:14:24 am
OP, I know this might resemble the Spanish Inquisition, but your account has so many holes that we need to sort out what's what.

Why are you unable to provide the car park operator with proof of your address? Frankly this suggests that you are not the occupier or even a resident because otherwise a bank statement, polling registration, V5C, driving licence or a host of other docs would have this info, including correspondence and your agreement under which you pay monthly for the parking place!

As mentioned previously, who has rights to park, under what authority and with what conditions?
Title: Re: UKCPM (ANPR) Residential Car Park Change to E-permit
Post by: b789 on June 30, 2024, 12:06:12 am
On what planet do you imagine "paying them off" is a better option than owing them zero? You don't owe an unregulated private parking company a penny. Of course you fight this, all the way to court if necessary.

To start with, please make sure you've read this thread:

READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)

Show us one of the NtKs (both sides) you received, suitably redacted of personal details, VRM and PCN number, leaving all dates visible.

Are you a leaseholder or a tenant? Either way, what does your lease/AST say about parking? What it doesn't say is equally important. For example, is there any mention of a requirement to display a permit? Is there any mention of any liability to a third party for spurious or speculative invoices for breaching any parking regulations?

It is highly likely that your lease/AST has supremacy of contract over anything that the managing agents decide to impose on you, such as an unregulated private parking company who are taking the liberty of charging you £100 per day for parking in your own demised parking space.

Please answer the questions about the lease and what it says and doesn't say about parking or quiet enjoyment and so on.
Title: UKCPM (ANPR) Residential Car Park Change to E-permit
Post by: loeys__ on June 29, 2024, 11:44:10 pm


So a while back, I received a letter from Sippi asking me to sign up for an e-permit for my apartment car park as they were moving over to digital permits. I applied through the website and uploaded a letter in my name as proof of residency. This was rejected as they would only accept a utility bill as proof which I didn’t have as I am not the one in charge of paying bills. I sent them a message stating this however I received no response.

A few weeks later I received 3 parking tickets in the post claiming that my car wasn’t registered to use the car park.

I appealed the tickets but these were rejected and UKCPM have no phone line or email to discuss parking charges so I contacted the building management who are completely useless, take ages to reply and claim they can’t help me until they sort the property accounts with the leaseholder (my landlord). My landlord emailed them twice and they stated that someone would get back to him however it has been weeks and there has been no response.

I have now received two debt recovery letters claiming that I have made no attempt to respond to the fines which is completely untrue.

Am I better off paying the £510 or should I let them take me to court?

Also, I still had the physical permit displayed in my car during the issue of the tickets and I also pay a monthly fee to use the car park. There was also no mention of a specific deadline to switch over to digital permits.

I would greatly appreciate any advice