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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: challenge_cheaters on June 23, 2024, 04:41:49 pm

Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on February 23, 2025, 10:07:13 pm
IMO, yes.

You can request a review but I cannot see relevant grounds and the authority is not bound to halt progress while this plays out and therefore could apply the surcharged penalty after the 28-day period has elapsed.

'Full penalty charge notice amount stated to be paid within 28 days.'

..

the period of 28 days beginning with the ...date on which the adjudicator’s decision is served on [you].




Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on February 23, 2025, 09:46:51 pm
For some reason you did not include the procedural issue at all/in sufficient detail* to persuade the adjudicator to your cause.

I asked to see your appeal because had you made these points in sufficient detail then the adjudicator was bound to consider them, but their written decisions shows that they did not*.

I therefore cannot see any grounds for asking for a review because the evidence of the impropriety of the NOR was known prior to the hearing.

*- from the decision:

'..The Appellant states that the Notice of Rejection is non-compliant.'

Where??

Did you tick the box 'procedural impropriety' when registering your appeal but not include any substantive argument?

Hi there, I ticked 'The alleged contravention did not occur'. Does it mean I just have to pay the fine? :(
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on February 23, 2025, 04:43:00 pm
For some reason you did not include the procedural issue at all/in sufficient detail* to persuade the adjudicator to your cause.

I asked to see your appeal because had you made these points in sufficient detail then the adjudicator was bound to consider them, but their written decisions shows that they did not*.

I therefore cannot see any grounds for asking for a review because the evidence of the impropriety of the NOR was known prior to the hearing.

*- from the decision:

'..The Appellant states that the Notice of Rejection is non-compliant.'

Where??

Did you tick the box 'procedural impropriety' when registering your appeal but not include any substantive argument?
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: SITR on February 23, 2025, 01:12:35 pm
Forgive my uneducated take on this, but it seems you had a reasonably valid procedural error to argue, then shot yourself in the foot by saying "I'm a resident & I did indeed park there because I don't believe I should be subject to the rules".
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on February 23, 2025, 11:42:32 am
Hi All, Any help/ further feedback would be much appreciated. I think I have until 28 Feb to pay so hopefully I can hear back from someone really soon.  Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on February 20, 2025, 12:26:34 pm
The decision was made on 31 Jan and therefore you are beyond the time limit for asking for a review(14 days) although a request could be submitted with reasons for lateness.

But on what grounds?(not just that you disagree with the decision).

You were given several procedural impropriety arguments as regards the NOR but I can't find any reference to these in the decision. If you made these points but they were ignored by the adjudicator then this could be grounds for a review. But you need to act quickly.

Have you got a copy of your appeal?

Here you go:
A: The alleged contravention did not occur
Q: Please describe why you want to challenge the penalty charge notice
A: Dear London Borough of Harrow,
The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the PCN that a contravention
took place while my car was parked on Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 3, but my car
was not at that location. Lamppost 3 is situated opposite number 19 Cannon Lane, but
my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the contravention alleged on the PCN
did not occur (which it did not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or didn't
occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is only the matter alleged on the
PCN that counts.
It follows that the PCN must be canceled.
Additionally, I am a resident of 11 Cannon Lane, whereby I just moved my car to the road
whilst my garden hedge was being cut. It seems the parking restriction is to prevent
commuters from parking there for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station,
and not to punish local residents.
Yours faithfully,
The decision was made on 31 Jan and therefore you are beyond the time limit for asking for a review(14 days) although a request could be submitted with reasons for lateness.

But on what grounds?(not just that you disagree with the decision).

You were given several procedural impropriety arguments as regards the NOR but I can't find any reference to these in the decision. If you made these points but they were ignored by the adjudicator then this could be grounds for a review. But you need to act quickly.

Have you got a copy of your appeal?
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on February 19, 2025, 04:58:57 pm
..is the decision, but what's required is the appeal.

A simple assertion that the NOR was not compliant would not, IMO, require the adjudicator to compare and contrast it with the regs: this is the appellant's burden.

OP, your appeal pl.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: SITR on February 19, 2025, 01:37:09 pm
EDIT: Deleted post as I'd totally misinterpreted something!
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on February 19, 2025, 12:54:47 pm
The decision was made on 31 Jan and therefore you are beyond the time limit for asking for a review(14 days) although a request could be submitted with reasons for lateness.

But on what grounds?(not just that you disagree with the decision).

You were given several procedural impropriety arguments as regards the NOR but I can't find any reference to these in the decision. If you made these points but they were ignored by the adjudicator then this could be grounds for a review. But you need to act quickly.

Have you got a copy of your appeal?
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on February 18, 2025, 10:15:23 pm
 :( Unfortunately, the Tribunal rejected my appeal (see below). Is there anything else I can do?

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Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on November 18, 2024, 03:29:38 pm
Do you have a case number from the tribunal?

Yes I do, it's 2240496230
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on November 14, 2024, 11:32:38 pm
Do you have a case number from the tribunal?
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: Incandescent on November 14, 2024, 11:22:55 pm
Hi there, even though I submitted my appeal to the london tribunals on the 04 November, Harrow still sent me a Charge Certificate. Is that appropriate?
(https://i.postimg.cc/6yVNrs0N/IMG-0174.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yVNrs0N)
Normally no, but the CC is dated 8th Nov, and you sent off your appeal on 4th Nov. It is entirely possible that London Tribunals had not yet informed the council of your appeal.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on November 14, 2024, 10:06:26 pm
Hi there, even though I submitted my appeal to the london tribunals on the 04 November, Harrow still sent me a Charge Certificate. Is that appropriate?
(https://i.postimg.cc/6yVNrs0N/IMG-0174.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yVNrs0N)

Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on November 14, 2024, 09:52:10 pm
I've got 28 days from the 7th October (so I have until the 4th November) to appeal to the adjudicators.  Please can someone advise.

Yes, and you're both wrong. Your lack of knowledge is not the issue, it's their error which exposes them to grounds of procedural impropriety.

The mandatory content is that an appeal may* be registered before the end of the period of 28 days beginning on the date of service AND that the adjudicator has discretion to register an appeal after the 28-day period has elapsed.

Date of service is presumed to be 2 working days after posting.

The letter is dated 7th, therefore service was on 9th which is day 1, day 28 is 5 Nov.

IMO, there are two failures in the NOR as regards appealing which should be put to the adjudicator as procedural improprieties:
1. What's included in the NOR is incorrect and not in accordance with regulations;
2. They have also omitted mandatory information.

IMO, these are strong grounds and you should appeal.

Wait for others.
Pcn is for a residents bay. Sign is for permit holders, not resident permit holders. Therefore the contravention did not occur. Add that as another ground at appeal

Many Thanks!
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: roythebus on October 27, 2024, 05:35:30 pm
Well spotted there!
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: mrmustard on October 27, 2024, 05:08:58 pm
Pcn is for a residents bay. Sign is for permit holders, not resident permit holders. Therefore the contravention did not occur. Add that as another ground at appeal
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on October 26, 2024, 06:26:53 pm
I've got 28 days from the 7th October (so I have until the 4th November) to appeal to the adjudicators.  Please can someone advise.

Yes, and you're both wrong. Your lack of knowledge is not the issue, it's their error which exposes them to grounds of procedural impropriety.

The mandatory content is that an appeal may* be registered before the end of the period of 28 days beginning on the date of service AND that the adjudicator has discretion to register an appeal after the 28-day period has elapsed.

Date of service is presumed to be 2 working days after posting.

The letter is dated 7th, therefore service was on 9th which is day 1, day 28 is 5 Nov.

IMO, there are two failures in the NOR as regards appealing which should be put to the adjudicator as procedural improprieties:
1. What's included in the NOR is incorrect and not in accordance with regulations;
2. They have also omitted mandatory information.

IMO, these are strong grounds and you should appeal.

Wait for others.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on October 26, 2024, 03:56:50 pm
Apologies for posting the council response later than I would of wanted, but as predicted, they've rejected my appeal. I've got 28 days from the 7th October (so I have until the 4th November) to appeal to the adjudicators.  Please can someone advise.  Thanks

(https://i.postimg.cc/tsC9cPpH/IMG-9894.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tsC9cPpH)

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Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on September 11, 2024, 10:24:22 pm
Surely, repeat the original sound challenge? e.g.: I require you to formally consider my original challenge. Please cancel.

Many thanks! @cp8759 just wondered if you had any further comments? Thanks
@challenge_cheaters I think that will suffice, there's no point in writing too much in the formal representations because the council will rejected them no matter what you say.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on September 11, 2024, 09:51:08 pm
Surely, repeat the original sound challenge? e.g.: I require you to formally consider my original challenge. Please cancel.

Many thanks! @cp8759 just wondered if you had any further comments? Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: Hippocrates on September 10, 2024, 01:47:26 pm
Surely, repeat the original sound challenge? e.g.: I require you to formally consider my original challenge. Please cancel.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on September 10, 2024, 01:36:25 pm
Hi, I'm not sure if you were able to see the NTO images I posted previously, so I'm using a different hosting service. I don't have many more days to appeal so if you could provide some advice soon that would be great. Thanks

https://ibb.co/bFJKmZ4
https://ibb.co/d5spWHS
https://ibb.co/C066Y2Z
https://ibb.co/7W6jjb8
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on August 28, 2024, 02:22:36 pm
@challenge_cheaters you will have to wait for the notice to owner to make formal representations.

Hi there, just receive the NTO today.
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Please could you advise. Many Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on August 05, 2024, 05:20:24 pm
@challenge_cheaters you will have to wait for the notice to owner to make formal representations.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: Incandescent on August 01, 2024, 01:05:10 am
Maybe send a PM to cp8759. To take matters further, you have to wait for the Notice to Owner, and then submit a formal representation, so you need quite a solid argument. Clearly you are now beyond the discount period, so no point in paying now until you've taken them all the way to adjudication if necessary.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on August 01, 2024, 12:46:54 am
Please advise on next steps. 14 days from the letter ended on the 25th July. It’s now 01 August, so I am a little worried on what to do now. Please help. Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on July 19, 2024, 08:17:33 pm
Hi All,
Sadly they rejected my appeal.

No they have not because you did not make an appeal, you made an informal representation and these are almost always responded to with a fob-off rejection.

More importantly, I have been sent a copy of The Harrow (Parking Places) Traffic Order 2020 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zpfA47SO4Z-gk8x8RbCsIkbsLApjS8Qm/view) as enacted and all the orders which amend the articles to that order and schedule 1, I have saved them all here (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1emhqR1MrbUnhkaTaeLg7hxGLkpmFC2H9).

There appears to be no provision creating a parking place in the location where you were parked, hence the alleged contravention did not occur.

The working copy of Schedule 1 is here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Xve_wUcqNXMyVaBZbVBGTrWHQL4ysMk/view), I have asked for a copy of the enacted version.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on July 18, 2024, 11:42:34 am
Many thanks for this!  Should I also mention that I am a resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not to punish local residents.
Yes you could mention that, it can't hurt.

Hi there, any thoughts on the rejection? Your help will be much appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: H C Andersen on July 16, 2024, 06:50:49 pm

Whilst our garden hedge was being cut we temporarily moved our car from the drive to the road outside our house but forgot to move it back to the drive.  The parking sign states Permit holders only 11am - Noon. We are not permit holders and received a ticket at 11:37.
Feels unfair that we have to pay £55 for parking just outside our house! Please can you help.


So, hedge cutting might have been the trigger for moving the car, but it was then left there. IMO at present you have no statutory defence, you could and should have parked your car where it was legal to do so. Sorry if this doesn't chime with other views.

Their response is typically bland but IMO this counts for little in the wider scheme at this stage and, other than prospective procedural impropriety, I can't see a defence. But if they would re-offer the discount in a NoR then you have the chance to test their procedural propriety risk-free.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: mickR on July 16, 2024, 03:45:26 pm
standard rejection, it was expected. not the end of the game tho.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on July 16, 2024, 12:06:40 pm
Hi All,
Sadly they rejected my appeal.  Please see below: (https://i.postimg.cc/0rqKb5zY/IMG-8453-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rqKb5zY)

Please could you advise on next steps.  Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on July 03, 2024, 10:20:09 pm
Many thanks for this!  Should I also mention that I am a resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not to punish local residents.
Yes you could mention that, it can't hurt.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on July 03, 2024, 10:54:59 am
Revised draft:

Dear London Borough of Harrow,

The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 3, but my car was not at that location. Lamppost 3 is situated opposite number 19 Cannon Lane, but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.

It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

Don't forget a screenshot of the confirmation page once submitted. The council will obviously reject but this will buy us some time to get some more information about the traffic order.

Many thanks for this!  Should I also mention that I am a resident at the house where the car was standing? It seems the parking restriction is to prevent commuters from parking there for free and then walking to Pinner Underground Station, and not to punish local residents.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on July 01, 2024, 10:59:27 pm
Revised draft:

Dear London Borough of Harrow,

The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 3, but my car was not at that location. Lamppost 3 is situated opposite number 19 Cannon Lane, but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.

It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

Don't forget a screenshot of the confirmation page once submitted. The council will obviously reject but this will buy us some time to get some more information about the traffic order.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on July 01, 2024, 10:35:29 am
@challenge_cheaters I'll need to tweak the draft slightly. Do you know the house number of the house on the corner here? https://maps.app.goo.gl/44E2GC81eh8YVV9H7

Hi there, yes, that is House number 19. Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on June 30, 2024, 11:29:45 pm
@challenge_cheaters I'll need to tweak the draft slightly. Do you know the house number of the house on the corner here? https://maps.app.goo.gl/44E2GC81eh8YVV9H7
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on June 30, 2024, 10:05:44 pm
Well you must know the restrictions exist so I don't think being in deliberate contravention will help. There is no requirement for the PCN to give an exact location, but if the location is wrong then you can argue the contravention alleged did not occur.

Here's a draft you can send:

Dear London Borough of Harrow,

The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 4, but my car was not at that location. Lamppost 4 is situated opposite number 9 Cannon Lane, but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.

It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,


Send this online and keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.

In the meantime I have found the traffic order for this location, it's The Harrow (Parking Places) Traffic Order 2020 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JA7T805jfccPCmSK4dp53N7vSvcnk-LP/view) and Cannon Lane is in Schedule 1 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Xve_wUcqNXMyVaBZbVBGTrWHQL4ysMk/view) on page six. The interesting thing is the order and the road markings don't match up to each other at all. I'm going to make some enquiries with the council about this, if they have simply messed up the order then we can use this argument at the notice to owner stage, or possibly at the tribunal.

Thanks for your help. A few things to point out:
1. Yes, this is the location as you pointed out: https://maps.app.goo.gl/K6V1c6QXayRuRkBS6. This is outside house number 9 Cannon lane.
2. The PCN states 'opp lp 3'rather than lamppost 4 you mentioned in your draft
3. Also, does 'opposite' mean the same side as the road as the lamppost i.e. alongside the lampost or literally the other side of the road to the lamppost?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on June 30, 2024, 06:10:05 pm
Well you must know the restrictions exist so I don't think being in deliberate contravention will help. There is no requirement for the PCN to give an exact location, but if the location is wrong then you can argue the contravention alleged did not occur.

Here's a draft you can send:

Dear London Borough of Harrow,

The alleged contravention did not occur. It is alleged on the PCN that a contravention took place while my car was parked on Cannon Lane opposite lamppost 4, but my car was not at that location. Lamppost 4 is situated opposite number 9 Cannon Lane, but my car was opposite number 16 Cannon Lane. If the contravention alleged on the PCN did not occur (which it did not), it is then irrelevant whether a contravention did or didn't occur at some other point along Cannon Lane, as it is only the matter alleged on the PCN that counts.

It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,


Send this online and keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.

In the meantime I have found the traffic order for this location, it's The Harrow (Parking Places) Traffic Order 2020 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JA7T805jfccPCmSK4dp53N7vSvcnk-LP/view) and Cannon Lane is in Schedule 1 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Xve_wUcqNXMyVaBZbVBGTrWHQL4ysMk/view) on page six. The interesting thing is the order and the road markings don't match up to each other at all. I'm going to make some enquiries with the council about this, if they have simply messed up the order then we can use this argument at the notice to owner stage, or possibly at the tribunal.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on June 30, 2024, 10:27:45 am
What evidence do you have around the hedge cutting, at what time did the work start and when did it finish?

Also, don't you have any visitor permits?

Council photos:

(https://i.imgur.com/Bej9qKw.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6DuMQYv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/d4i1S3P.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/93ySmrH.jpeg)

The location is here https://maps.app.goo.gl/K6V1c6QXayRuRkBS6 and the one thing that occurs to me is that this is not opposite lamppost 3, it's between a point opposite lamppost 3 and a point opposite lamppost 4.

Thanks for the checks.
- We moved the car at 8:30
- We have Ring video footage showing the hedge being cut.
- We do not have a visitors parking permit
- Please let me know the significance of the lamppost location
- the 14-day cut-off will be 4th July - so I need to appeal by then.

Cheers
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: Incandescent on June 29, 2024, 07:56:38 pm
Oh dear, mea culpa !  I forgot about the visitor permit facility, that would have covered the OP's time on the carriageway. Of course, these all cost money.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on June 29, 2024, 05:45:28 pm
What evidence do you have around the hedge cutting, at what time did the work start and when did it finish?

Also, don't you have any visitor permits?

Council photos:

(https://i.imgur.com/Bej9qKw.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6DuMQYv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/d4i1S3P.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/93ySmrH.jpeg)

The location is here https://maps.app.goo.gl/K6V1c6QXayRuRkBS6 and the one thing that occurs to me is that this is not opposite lamppost 3, it's between a point opposite lamppost 3 and a point opposite lamppost 4.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on June 26, 2024, 09:51:42 pm
@challenge_cheaters please give us the PCN number and the number plate, without this information we can't do any basic checks.
PCN: HR75242785
Reg: LV08DPK
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: cp8759 on June 26, 2024, 06:14:54 pm
@challenge_cheaters please give us the PCN number and the number plate, without this information we can't do any basic checks.
Title: Re: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: Incandescent on June 23, 2024, 08:21:40 pm
I suggest you submit representions against the PCN based on what you have told us, and state that you are residents as the house where the car was standing, and request the PCN be cancelled, pointing out that you are sure the parking restriction is to prevent commuters parking there for free and then walking to Rayners Lane Underground Station, and not to punish local residents. DOn't be confrontational, because the CEO would have had no idea the car was outside its owner's house.
Title: Ticket for parking outside my house whilst my garden hedge was being cut
Post by: challenge_cheaters on June 23, 2024, 04:41:49 pm
To whom can help,

Whilst our garden hedge was being cut we temporarily moved our car from the drive to the road outside our house but forgot to move it back to the drive.  The parking sign states Permit holders only 11am - Noon. We are not permit holders and received a ticket at 11:37.
Feels unfair that we have to pay £55 for parking just outside our house! Please can you help. Thanks

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