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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: HolyGuacamole on June 21, 2024, 05:59:45 pm

Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: cp8759 on July 08, 2024, 08:46:36 am
@HolyGuacamole I've now got hold of The South Gloucestershire Council (Regent Street and Two Mile Hill, Kingswood) (One Way Traffic and Bus Lane) Order 2002 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f2hwVZOn_HkXIGZMYxgB9YuAGahkgI2p/view), have you made representations or did you give up and pay?
Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: cp8759 on July 03, 2024, 11:44:01 am
@HolyGuacamole are you still with us?

I have now had this rather odd reply from the council:

(https://i.imgur.com/KL4bGuq.png)

Still waiting for the traffic order.
Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: cp8759 on June 26, 2024, 05:59:03 pm
Ok I will submit a representation based on unfamiliarity with the city.
If you've not sent it already then please put a draft on here first.

Did you see the signs at all?

In the meantime I'll request the traffic order and the camera make and model.
Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: HolyGuacamole on June 23, 2024, 01:55:36 pm
Hey thanks for the reply.  Yes I was using Satnav at the time.  Imgur doesn't seem to cope with sharing the video for some reason. Here is a google drive link to the video:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f-Rb8S2pwKaKVNOOgrSziyolZdvleYOE/view?usp=sharing

Ok I will submit a representation based on unfamiliarity with the city.

Thanks again for the assistance :)
Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: Incandescent on June 22, 2024, 09:50:59 pm
Yes, please, download it, then put it on here. You may have to use a hosting site as per the forum "Read this first...."thread.

The busgate signs seem clear enough, although it is disgusting to me that the road layout and markings are left totally unchanged, so there are no environmental clues that the road is blocked to motor vehicles

I backtracked from your GSV link and found that there is advance warning of the bus gate: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/H6DCK5zoBkVQNcTR8
If these advance signs had not been present your case would be quite strong, but if you get as far as adjudication, the council will point out this advance warning.  Were you using a satnav ?

Usually a council will re-offer the discount when rejecting representations received within the discount period, so you could submit reps on the basis of total unfamiliarity with Bristol, and ask for this to be considered in mitigation of your transgression. Post up their response when you get it.

Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: HolyGuacamole on June 22, 2024, 11:57:40 am
Hi Incandescent,

Thanks for the reply. 

Here is a link to the GSV of the road.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yRfQvMB9neBRHAwz6?g_st=afm

I can view the video, but will need to upload to share it, would that also be helpful?

Title: Re: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: Incandescent on June 21, 2024, 06:52:59 pm
You may be able to view the video, (the sole evidence) if you go onto their website and quote PCN Number and car reg. However, they may still be in the Dark Ages, in which case, you can only view it at their premises.

Can you please post-up a GSV link to the exact location shown on the PCN photos, please. Yes, we can also look, but there are an awful lot of posts to be dealt with and our time is limited.
Title: South Gloucestershire Council - Being In A Bus Lane, Regent Street Kingswood
Post by: HolyGuacamole on June 21, 2024, 05:59:45 pm
Hi All,

I had never been to Bristol before and was struggling to find my way and had no idea I was in a bus lane until I received this PCN.  I would be grateful for assistance with this.  Thank you in advance.  PCN pics in the link.

(https://imgur.com/a/MTi2F5u)

https://imgur.com/a/MTi2F5u