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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: bmm on June 21, 2024, 02:57:19 pm

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on July 19, 2024, 01:21:23 pm

I received the DVD and was confronted with the evidence that our vehicle entered the yellow box without a clear escape route and eventually was forced to stop partly withing the box. Paid the fine and we'll be more careful around those yellow boxes!

Thanks for all the helpful contributions on this chat.

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on June 28, 2024, 04:24:43 pm

Thank you cp8759,

I found the form and I am in the process of sending it now.

Thanks again,

bmm

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: cp8759 on June 26, 2024, 08:11:31 pm

A quick Google search leads to this form: https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-customer-services-subject-access-request-form-2021.docx

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: Hippocrates on June 25, 2024, 12:57:22 pm

You contact TFL.

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on June 24, 2024, 02:03:02 pm

Thank you zeetopchoice,

Where can I find a draft Subject Access Request (SAR) in your post? Not sure I where to look for attachements.

Thanks again,

bmm

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: zeetopchoice on June 21, 2024, 11:27:08 pm

I recommend submitting a Subject Access Request (SAR) via email, as this will typically put the ticket on hold for a month. You can find a draft for the email in my post. This process might give you additional time to gather any necessary information or documentation. I wish you the very best in getting this ticket cancelled. Thanks!

Quote from: bmm on June 21, 2024, 09:19:21 pm

Thanks Incandescent. The Tfl call handler mentioned calling them after 14 days if the video evidence hadn't turned up by then. It's in my diary!!

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on June 21, 2024, 09:19:21 pm

Thanks Incandescent. The Tfl call handler mentioned calling them after 14 days if the video evidence hadn't turned up by then. It's in my diary!!

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: Incandescent on June 21, 2024, 06:39:14 pm

TfL only suspend the process for 2 weeks, so mark this in your diary, and contact them if you haven't received it.

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on June 21, 2024, 04:03:04 pm

Thank you John.

Ordered the DVD and PCN on hold. Will post it as soon as I receive it.

Thanks again,

bmm

Title: Re: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: John U.K. on June 21, 2024, 03:20:29 pm

The evidence is moving traffic cases is the video. So telephone TfL and ask them to send out to you the video (TfL use DVDs) and to put the PCN on hold whilst they do so.  Ehen you have it post a link to copy here.

Title: Tfl PCN Contravention Code 31 at Wandsworth West Hill SW18 / Fire Station
Post by: bmm on June 21, 2024, 02:57:19 pm

Hi there,

I would be grateful to receive guidance on how to deal with this PCN for stopping in a yellow box junction. We are not 100% how to initiate a representation and how detailed and legalese our representation needs to be.

It is not clear to us that the photographs supplied as evidence make the case that the driver entered the box junction and stopped in it because of the presence of a stationary vehicle on the other side of the box.

We wold gratefully receive guidance on how to phrase our representation. The due date for making a representation is 27 June 2024.

Here is a copy of the PCN

(https://i.imgur.com/i8P2nsj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bWBd4W0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/y2HEy3j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rPUqvdg.jpg)


Here are the photos

(https://i.imgur.com/GpTQbAC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/q1oxctP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NeVmg5P.jpg)


And here is a link to Google maps

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8TZBcWzLJR85aSdq8

Many thanks for any help you can provide.

bmm