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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Rudeboyz on June 05, 2024, 02:22:58 pm
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Local authority making it up as they go along Hippocrates?
Surely not!!! >:(
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"Procedural impropriety" does not exist in this legislation.
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Forgot to post this to the site.
Newham Council’s explanation for the no show at the tribunal.
https://imgur.com/a/EdIuQkG
;D ;D ;D
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@Rudeboyz No worries. 5th set approaches. They don't know what a real/non-metaphorical U turn is. 2240345188 ;) ;D 8)
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Thank you Hippocrates for all your assistance & hard work on this matter.
Must say I am disappointed that Newham Council decided to do a u-turn & after confirming their attendance at the hearing scheduled for tomorrow, then decided not to contest the appeal.
I was looking forward to seeing their representatives at the appeal hearing getting cross examined. Guess they knew defeat was inevitable.
Thanks once again Hippocrates. Outstanding result!!! ;D 8) :)
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They retreated; but, the game ain't over yet. ;) ;D 8) 2240465022. I have mixed feelings as I was looking forward to the battle tomorrow. :'( They were going to attend.
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All sorted. Good to speak. 8)
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Hopefully this link will enable the enforcement notice to be viewed.
https://imgur.com/a/GcSKxbX
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This is technical. This is the last time I will offer to assist. This is NOT a DIY case.
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@Rudeboyz It really is essential that you reply to my offer. ;D
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I have attempted again to post the notice of rejection letter, via the link below.
I can post that here for you, but first repost page 1 on Imgur having redacted your name & address.
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EDIT: I see Hippocrates is on the case. You are in good hands, so I'll not post NoR here, but you still need to redact page 1.
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PM sent with offer of representation. They need to attend. I would need to change the time. They MUST serve their pack no later than 7 days before the hearing.
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Appealed to the London Tribunals & confirmation of hearing letter posted via link below:
https://imgur.com/a/london-tribunals-pn75193797-Svnwbug
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Will definitely post the links to Imgur, if my latest attempt to post the notice of rejection letter fails John U.K.
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Apologies for the delay in responding back to your post Enceladus. Been out of action due to a stomach bug I picked.
I have attempted again to post the notice of rejection letter, via the link below. With regards to the enforcement notice, I appear to have mislaid this & will endeavour to find it & post it.
https://imgur.com/a/newham-pcn-notice-of-rejection-Mzgn1r1
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Finally received a notice of rejection from Newham Council.
Your attempts at embedding the links do not work :(
Post the links to Imgur and I'll try and do it for you.
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The links to the rejection you received don't work.
And what about the Enforcement Notice? Please post that up as well.
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Finally received a notice of rejection from Newham Council.
https://i.imgur.com/5qmID5O.jpg
https://imgur.com/jmkp24X
https://imgur.com/BlfidmX
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Wait for the enforcement notice.
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Received a response from Newham Council, concerning the PCN representation.
https://imgur.com/a/V1oMQ2I
https://imgur.com/a/f8CPtlF
https://imgur.com/a/gKp2e2n
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Greatly appreciate the draft representation Hippocrates & I will definitely lodge an informal appeal.
Will provide a further update, once I receive a response from Newham Council.
Thanks once again.
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Better late than never:
Dear Newham
Ref: PCN VRM
I challenge the PCN as follows.
1. The video shows no warning signage allegedly passed.
2. Unless you can prove that the camera is approved, your evidence is inadmissible at the Tribunal.
3.*************
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.
Yours faithfully
Name
Address
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Thank you Hippocrates for your assistance in advance.
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I will draft tomorrow.
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Thank you Incandescent for the reply.
Due to the vehicles ahead turning right at the traffic lights, onto Hermit Road, this caused a queue, which was made worse, when the coach also indicated to turn right.
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Yes that is the exact location Martyn21uk
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Looking at the video, you started driving into the bus lane just before the black-painted pole on the opposite side of the road. It is then easy to see this pole using GSV satellite view to work out you were in the bus lane for about 29.75 metres. You also undertook other vehicles. So on the face of it, the contravention itself seems to be made out, although I have to say it does look a bit money-grubbing of the council to serve a PCN right at the end of the buslane.
However don't just cough-up rightaway, but submit reps on the basis that you were turning left and inadvertently drove into the bus lane for a short distance so as to make the turn safely. It is quite possible there will be a camera authorisation or other technical issue. Your reps will give some time so that all these avenues can be explored by the experts on here. Provided you submit your reps so they are received
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Is this the location?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ZFk16NdXzXnh5Jm8
https://youtu.be/0oxfmmMHk_I (https://youtu.be/0oxfmmMHk_I)
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Received PCN from Newham Council for entering into a bus lane.
Didn’t realise at the time, that I had entered into the bus lane. Was under the mistaken impression that I had entered into the section of the road, that allowed you to go into the lane, just before the traffic light junction with Hermit road/Beckton road.
Any possible grounds to appeal the PCN?
Photos of PCN can be viewed via link below.
https://imgur.com/a/barking-rd-pcn-UTujSje