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Title: Re: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: cp8759 on June 04, 2024, 11:54:14 pm
@Nick325i well I have found The Waltham Forest (Prescribed Routes) (No. 2) Traffic Order 1971 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uupZWHHcotqvjxFffu236qvHIssWNHpg/view) and unfortunately this right turn is indeed prohibited.

Why did you wife think the turn was allowed?

This might be one for the strategy of last resort (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581).
Title: Re: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: Incandescent on June 02, 2024, 11:16:26 am
The contravention seems made out, but often these things can be overturned on a techicality like the camera not being approved. However, nobody expert on this aspect has posted so far. Bad time what with Whitsun half-term etc so people not being about.

What you could do is submit reps on the basis that you didn't have time to read the closed hours as you passed the sign, there being no advance warning of a timed restriction except the sign itself.

Title: Re: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: Nick325i on June 02, 2024, 10:01:56 am
I need to appeal or pay in the next day or so. Is it even worth challenging?
Title: Re: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: Nick325i on June 01, 2024, 07:47:57 pm
No relevance really tbh. It's what caused a a lot of traffic as there was flooding on the main road
Title: Re: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: Incandescent on May 30, 2024, 10:51:29 am
I have to say I can't see much to go on at the moment, the PCN is timed at 08.44, so right in the middle of the NRT period. Can you please explain the relevance of the burst watermain.
Title: Waltham Forest - 50R performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
Post by: Nick325i on May 30, 2024, 10:21:22 am
My wife, in her haste to get my child to school did a prohibited right turn thinking it was only the next right turn that was not allowed. It was a pretty gloomy day and there was a burst watermain that day. She genuinely thought that turn was allowed, despite the clear sign to say it wasn't. I am not sure if there is any case to be had. I remember years ago I did something similar and was let off on a technicality as the PCN dates were slightly incorrect. Hoping for a miracle!

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