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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: safeqaz on May 24, 2024, 05:13:53 pm
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Should i go ahead and pay as the 2 weeks timeline is up in 2 days?
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Any update on what i should put in the response?
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https://i.postimg.cc/25BNxHn8/IMG-2274-1.jpg
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So i have received a letter in the post from TFL to make a representation within 28 days.
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Ok thanks, sorry was confused before.
This is now done a representation has been entered.
Thanks
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cp8759 already told you days ago!
"Go to https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/challenge-a-pcn and put in a representations simply saying "the alleged contravention did not occur", if you're lucky they'll still consider it and issue a notice of rejection."
It doesn't matter what you select, you're just trying to get a rejection instead of a charge certificate. You can fight a rejection or pay £160. If they have sent a charge certificate the only option is to pay £240.
DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME!!!!
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@cp8759 help please
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Am i simply selecting contravention did not occur?
Anything else to add? Any comments or images?
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Ok sure will make the representation.
Ive just checked and its open for challenge.
What exactly am i entering in this representation?
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Shall i carry on waiting?
No! Make a representation right now on https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/challenge-a-pcn
You've already missed the deadline and are at risk of getting a charge certificate. If they issue one, you've lost and that's the end of the matter. If you end up having to pay £240 I'll just have to say I told you so, but I really don't want to do that.
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Understood, im not sure why its taking so long to receive the DVD. But so far this is the history :-
26 June 2024On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received
N/A
29 May 2024On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received (14/06/2024)
N/A
22 May 2024PCN Batched
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So seems like im having trouble receiving the DVD. Shall i carry on waiting? Im thinking to call them again end of this week to see what the issue is.
Thanks
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When i initally ordered the DVD the put the charge on hold and i can see its on hold. So i dont see a risk?
Sure, but if they take it off hold and issue a charge certificate, you will have no grounds to file a witness statement with TEC, meaning you'll have no procedural route to get this before the tribunal and you'll be stuck with a bill for £240 which you can't challenge.
We've seen lots of people end up in this situation because they were waiting for the video and were sure the PCN would be kept on hold more or less indefinitely, but that is simply not the case.
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When i initally ordered the DVD the put the charge on hold and i can see its on hold. So i dont see a risk?
Because they (or a computer algorithm) can take it off hold at any point.
So follow CP's advice.
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When i initally ordered the DVD the put the charge on hold and i can see its on hold. So i dont see a risk?
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Yes ive ordered the DVD but nothing has come yet. There is a image on TFL website.
@safeqaz you've missed the 28 day deadline and are at risk of getting a charge certificate and losing the right to appeal.
You need to go and make a representation right now, or else all is lost.
Go to https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/challenge-a-pcn and put in a representations simply saying "the alleged contravention did not occur", if you're lucky they'll still consider it and issue a notice of rejection.
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Yes ive ordered the DVD but nothing has come yet. There is a image on TFL website.
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@safeqaz well there's no photos on the TFL website which is very odd. Have you ordered the DVD?
The double red lines do not have an upright sign, therefore service of a postal PCN is a procedural impropriety because the High Court has said that the requirement for an upright sign applies to double red lines just as it applies to single red lines.
However it would be useful to see the video before I draft anything.
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Please see location below :-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NS4LzswEMXBaBTqm8
I stopped on the right on double red for maximum 5 minutes.
Ive also re attached the images for the PCN
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Your links are un-clickable
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Hi,
Please see pics below, i will call them tomorrow morning for the DVD
(https://i.ibb.co/VD65qkZ/IMG-1177.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VTnRsMG/IMG-1176.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zVHSKK0/IMG-1175.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/KNQrm67/IMG-1174.jpg)
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@safeqaz all TFL's parking PCNs are currently open to challenge, but you've given us nothing to work with. As John says, please read the guidance here (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/) and re-post the PCN with the PCN number and number plate visible.
Also please call TFL tomorrow on 0343 222 3333 and ask for the video, they will send you a DVD in the post and put the penalty on hold while you wait.
Lastly please give us a link to the exact spot where this happened, the guide I've linked above will explain how to do this.
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Have a read of https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and please repost all 4 sides of the PCN with only your name and address redacted, and a GSV link to the location.
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Hi All,
I received a PCN for red route, please see pics attached.
There was no sign however on google maps i could see a sign facing oncoming traffic but i came from the opposite way.
I literally stopped there for 5 minutes as i went to get some water. Expensive water for sure!
Anything we can do with this?
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