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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Bordza on May 02, 2024, 10:01:20 am

Title: Re: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: cp8759 on June 12, 2024, 11:30:41 pm

@cristinika please start your own thread.

Title: Re: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: cristinika on June 09, 2024, 05:47:53 pm

Hi, I am in a very similar situation, just received the PCN for 52m at the same location. I was wondering if the OP has appealed and what was the outcome.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: cp8759 on May 03, 2024, 08:26:25 pm

Please do not start new threads for the same PCN.

The Google street view image (https://maps.app.goo.gl/txk9ohvuSy7PH4D46) shows a sign on the nearside:

(https://i.imgur.com/eOUmDKo.png)

Now, it might be that the nearside sign has gone missing, in which case your case is quite strong, or it's there but just out of sight of the camera, in which case it's quite weak and you'd need to look at the strategy of last resort (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581) instead.

The only way to know for sure if the nearside sign is still there or not is for you to go back and check (if it's gone obviously get some photos).

The traffic order is The Hackney (Prescribed Routes and 20 Mph Speed Limit) (Consolidation No.1) Order 2019 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qxta3k5JXRrKGHir4-HKQpTpq2tlzVio/view) as amended by The Hackney (Prescribed Routes and 20 MPH Speed Limit) (Amendment No.61) Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_f0P_8HK8uGNczmOUnNlRTGglDQcfHpv/view).

Title: Re: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: Bordza on May 02, 2024, 12:36:42 pm

Hi,
Please see attached the link for the location and the remainder if the letter (in pdf file).

Location:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QQTVn8Xm6LGem9pK9

Thank you for looking at it.

(https://i.imgur.com/RKOv4Ry.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/riW4QWy.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/8njB1ws.png)

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Title: Re: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: John U.K. on May 02, 2024, 10:40:10 am

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As can be seen on the pictures provided by the council

Errr???

Have a read of https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and please post the pictures here together with a GSV link to the location


EDIT - I see the pictures are included in the .pdf file. Please post the GSV link and the remaining pages of the the PCN, as the small print needs to be checked for mistakes.

Title: Hackney, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Church Street junction of Lordship Road.
Post by: Bordza on May 02, 2024, 10:01:20 am

I've been served a penalty for failing to comply by entering a zone with a prohibition for motor vehicles.
I was driving on a Thursday afternoon at 2pm.

As can be seen on the pictures provided by the council that the main sign of warning is on the right hand side. I find that very misleading as it should've been placed on the left hand side (imagine a bus driving through on the other side, that would make the sign not visible)

There's a sign on the left hand side a bit further along but that's already after the contravention has been recorded.

Is there anyway I could fight this?

(https://i.imgur.com/KGF3ff7.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cw0YVxbIUY

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