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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: loady on April 19, 2024, 11:19:23 am
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There is no legal requirement to issue a COFP. Strangely enough there is no legal requirement to issue the COFP that there is no legal requirement to issue within any particular timescale. The only issue would be if the suspended enforcement period (28 days from date of issue) extended beyond the 6 month limit to instigate court proceedings.
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No they dont want to spend that money on little old me, anyway, i just thought i would check in see if there was any last ditch ways out of this stealth tax/money trap.
Is there a period that they have to respond by or send the notice CoFP by ? because i just received it and its dated the 1st of August.
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it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send out the fine ?
They might do that. Or they might decide to prosecute you in court. Their choice.
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it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send out the fine ?
They send out a conditional offer of a fixed Penalty, not a fine. A fine you have a pay, a CoFP you don’t.
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ill take the points and not lose three hours of my life being droned on at about doing 26 in in a now 20mph major A road, these 20MPH zones, LTN's and the like are a farse, driven by cyclists with clip boards who contribute zero to poy for all the stupid ill placed bike lanes.
Actually, i wonder if the mamil's will abide by the highway code of not overtaking on the left now they can actually go faster than a car is allowed to. ::)
Seems a pity that you should decide unnecessarily to accept 3 points because of a couple of falsely held preconceived notions you have...
As I explained previously, I attended a course last year and found it rather helpful with no droning and no talking down and not at all an inconvenience. You might have found that attending one would have been quite informative if you drive for a living. You might have discovered, for example, that a 20mph limit doesn't necessarily have to have roundels on the road.
You also might have learned that 20mph limits have nothing to do with cyclists and rather a lot more to do with extensive scientific evidence proving that 20 mph limits significantly reduce the risk of serious injury to pedestrians.
But of course you don't want to know any of that...
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anyway... so im not tasking the course, do i need to do anything, it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send out the fine ? going forward ill keep the sat nav on that will warn me of 20mph zones and where the cameras are.
I wouldn't rely on it.
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anyway... so im not tasking the course, do i need to do anything, it seems that i just ignore the course and then they will send out the fine ? going forward ill keep the sat nav on that will warn me of 20mph zones and where the cameras are.
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Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats offered..if
So you can tell them - in your own words - to "poke it up your bum"?
Or was that just false bravado?
If you're offered a course, take it.
Yes, exactly what i am going to do, tell them to poke it up thier bum, theres like £8 difference cost between the course and the fine, ill take the points and not lose three hours of my life being droned on at about doing 26 in in a now 20mph major A road, these 20MPH zones, LTN's and the like are a farse, driven by cyclists with clip boards who contribute zero to poy for all the stupid ill placed bike lanes.
Actually, i wonder if the mamil's will abide by the highway code of not overtaking on the left now they can actually go faster than a car is allowed to. ::)
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Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats offered..if
So you can tell them - in your own words - to "poke it up your bum"?
Or was that just false bravado?
If you're offered a course, take it.
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i cant see any large roundals on the road from the picture,
Well none are required anyway.
Plus had you exited a road with an existing 20 limit then no terminal signs would be needed either.
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Oh well, thats the door closed on that one, lets see whats offered..if
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I am guessing that there are no avenues of appeal or reps available to NIP's ?
You cannot appeal a NIP. It is simply a notice. If you want to challenge the allegation you will have to decline or ignore any out of court offers and see the matter heard in court.
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I am guessing that there are no avenues of appeal or reps available to NIP's ? i just had a look at the images today, i wasnt long turned on to the road and i cant see any large roundals on the road from the picture, GE is not updated so cant search there but i beleive at the point of travelling through the camera i was under the illusion that a major trunk road would not be a 20mph limit, my brakes are clearly applied in the picture...wriggle wriggle wriggle...
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For me, driving is an occupational hazzard, possibly things might have changed since i last got a NIP, the last one where i was offered the course was nearly twenty years ago if i recall correctly, i rarely get caught and the difference to my premium with and without the points was £11 and the course was held in Hendon and cost was £200, i live in Surrey so was never going to happen.
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...ill take the points and good luck writing it onto my paper license lol, which looks like a map thats been rolled up in Sinbads pocket.
It will take a little more than luck. It is no longer a requirement to submit your licence for endorsement purposes.
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Points all go onto an electronic driver’s record anyway, so I doubt such a reply will cause the police any concern.
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Got offered one before and ill tell them exactly the same as i did last time.. poke it up your bum, ill take the points and good luck writing it onto my paper license lol, which looks like a map thats been rolled up in Sinbads pocket.
Why take the points?
I did an online* course last October. Can't remember exactly what it cost (less than £100?) but it only took up about two hours of my time and was no inconvenience at all. No lecturing or talking down to you - it was just like a chat or discussion between 6 people about speeding and speed limits.
And if you think that driiving in London is getting more and more restrictive, doesn't it make sense to keep your points down? Turning a course down isn't really a worthwhile show of defiance
*Where I live only online courses are (or were) available. I suppose it would take up more of your time if you had to travel to a venue to do an "in person" course.
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Got offered one before and ill tell them exactly the same as i did last time.. poke it up your bum, ill take the points and good luck writing it onto my paper license lol, which looks like a map thats been rolled up in Sinbads pocket.
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It looks OK. I guess if it was an April Fool they'd have told you by now.
For that speed, you should be offered an awareness course if you're eligible, i.e. you haven't done one in the previous three years.
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Getting ridiculous now driving in london, why dont we just go back to horses and carts. Anyway...
Probably banged to rights but i thought i would put it up for your eyes to peruse for errors and have a little rant.
I was picking up my Daughter and last time i did so they had put up LTN's on all the side roads where i would cut through to get to her to avoid the bottle neck at Brixton, so this time i went in from the top of Brixton and have not done this before so i was looking for her block of flats whilst checking i wasnt contrevening another newly invented restriction and checking whether i was allowed to traverse the bus lane or not and etc etc etc, yes i was doing over 20 clearly, under 30 until i spotted the speed limit was now 20 on a main artery, i dont even know where the camera was that got me but i am pretty sure when i spotted it it would have been then i would have possibly noticed the speed limit.
Dont think ill get off with this one but you never know.
Cheers and happy driving out there.
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