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Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: ss201 on March 23, 2024, 11:27:51 am
Oh dear, yet another satnav-assisted PCN ! It is fatal to just blindly follow instructions from these devices in London where there are hundreds of council traps to catch you out. Did you not understand the meaning of the two "Flying Motorbike" signs ?

Very difficult to get these cancelled. If there are no advance signs, then you might be in with a chance, but we can't see if there are any, because GSV is too out-of-date, so you'd need to do some leg-work with a camera.

Alternative is a fatal error on the PCN making it void, but Hippocrates has put that one to bed, I'm afraid.  We point out PCN errors, but it only works for so long if the council are pro-active on these things.

No unfortunately I never came across this sign before, I was wondering what the sign was and was mistakenly reassured by the car going in front of me :-(
Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: ss201 on March 23, 2024, 11:25:26 am
Were there any advanced warning signs?

I don't think there was.
Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: Hippocrates on March 23, 2024, 10:32:49 am


Alternative is a fatal error on the PCN making it void, but Hippocrates has put that one to bed, I'm afraid. 
And, he didn't even make one of his crazy videos -they worked it out for themselves.  ::)
Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: Incandescent on March 23, 2024, 12:22:34 am
Oh dear, yet another satnav-assisted PCN ! It is fatal to just blindly follow instructions from these devices in London where there are hundreds of council traps to catch you out. Did you not understand the meaning of the two "Flying Motorbike" signs ?

Very difficult to get these cancelled. If there are no advance signs, then you might be in with a chance, but we can't see if there are any, because GSV is too out-of-date, so you'd need to do some leg-work with a camera.

Alternative is a fatal error on the PCN making it void, but Hippocrates has put that one to bed, I'm afraid.  We point out PCN errors, but it only works for so long if the council are pro-active on these things.
Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: Hippocrates on March 22, 2024, 09:15:02 pm
Were there any advanced warning signs?
Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: ss201 on March 22, 2024, 04:57:14 pm
A shame as they have now clearly fixed a wording problem.  Please show all pages of the PCN. And redact your address and name but leave the PCN and VRM details.

Thanks for replying, I am attaching both the front and back of the letter

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Title: Re: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: Hippocrates on March 21, 2024, 06:08:44 pm
A shame as they have now clearly fixed a wording problem.  Please show all pages of the PCN. And redact your address and name but leave the PCN and VRM details.
Title: PCN from Haringey council for driving on a restricted road
Post by: ss201 on March 21, 2024, 03:05:52 pm
Hi, I got a PCN for driving on La Rose Lane in Haringey where cars are not allowed (the PCN and screenshot from the council website attached). I am from Redbridge and not familiar with roads like these and I was following instructions on google maps which told me to go through the road. I would like to  know if I have any grounds for appeal. Many thanks

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