Was there a covering email message with the 'NOR' attachment?
Well the response is utter drivel and as they've not reoffered the discount, there's no point in paying now because even if you appeal and lose, the penalty stays the same. That being said, I think you're more likely than not to win.
@mang0
Send it online, keep a copy, and make sure to keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.
I assume the message about the fine increasing to £195 by 25th May if unpaid is on hold while my representation is in process?Yes, if they were to serve a charge certificate while the representation is still outstanding that would be a procedural impropriety, and an immediate and guaranteed win at the tribunal.
I assume the message about the fine increasing to £195 by 25th May if unpaid is on hold while my representation is in process?Yes, if they were to serve a charge certificate while the representation is still outstanding that would be a procedural impropriety, and an immediate and guaranteed win at the tribunal.
@mang0 hopefully this won't require much of a discussion, here you go:-snip-
Send it online, keep a copy, and make sure to keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.
@mang0 this looks really simple to me: the photos do not show any contravention:
There is no evidence of any signage to put you notice that you're parking in an off-street car park, let alone of any signage telling you that a PCN may be issued for parking outside of a bay or in a restricted area. As such the council did not bring the terms of the off-street parking places order to your attention, so there was no contravention.
The order is [] so you don't need to wait for the council to provide it (indeed I'd suggest you withdraw your FOI request so the next person in the queue gets their information request answered a bit quicker). The map tile for Northfield House is on page 197 and I don't see that it creates either a bay nor a restricted area where you parked your car:
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If this is put to the council properly in the formal representations (which I'm happy to draft for you), we could make the case that it would be wholly unreasonable for them to reject. If they are then silly enough to reject, we can go after them for costs at the tribunal.
Do you have the V5C and is the address up to date?
Freedom of Information Act 2000
Thank you for your request for information, that was received on 18 March 2024.
The request is as follows:
I am a resident of Northfield House, Peckham Park Road, SE15 6TN. I have been reading about the Estate Parking guidelines in the Tenant's Handbook ( https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/185476/Tenants-Handbook-part-9.-Parking.pdf ) and I noticed this section:
"The council also have written traffic management orders and enforce on housing estates using the same powers as on the highway."
Please can you email me a copy of all Traffic Management Orders that are relevant and applicable to Northfield House Estate Parking? The relevant section of the Southwark Council website https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/traffic-orders-licensing-strategies-and-regulation/traffic-management-orders?chapter=4 does not list anything about Northfield House.
We are dealing with your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and we aim to send a response by 17 April 2024.
The Freedom of Information Act 2000 may restrict the release of some or all of the information you have requested. We will carry out an assessment and if any exemptions apply to some or all of the information then we might not provide that information to you. We will inform you if this is the case and advise you of your rights to request an internal review and to complain to the Information Commissioner's Office.
We will also advise you if we cannot provide you with the information requested for any other reason together with the reason(s) why and details of how you may appeal (if appropriate).
Yours faithfully
can you post a google street view link to exactly where you parked
council photos don’t support what you say prima facie
OP, the back of the PCN pl.
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/185476/Tenants-Handbook-part-9.-Parking.pdf
See heading 2, Estate Parking, in particular 'sometimes using the same codes'!
I don't see that the location is subject to enforcement under the Traffic Management Act, and if it is then the requirements as regards clear signing of bays, their use, what happens for non-compliance should apply but none of which is visible in HSV.
Using your Tenant's Handbook as a frame of reference, ask for a copy of the traffic order which applies to Northfield House.