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Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on September 29, 2025, 01:00:40 pm
Just send the email and see what they respond with.

If you want to understand why this is now an issue, have a read of this thread:

Why the recent High Court appellate case of Mazur is very relevant to all cases we deal with here (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/why-the-recent-high-court-appellate-case-of-mazur-is-very-relevant-to-all-cases-/)
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 29, 2025, 11:45:51 am
They lie all the time in order to get your money, so why wouldn’t they also break the law?

Because they will lose their soliciting license, wouldn't they?
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on September 29, 2025, 11:34:56 am
They lie all the time in order to get your money, so why wouldn’t they also break the law?
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 29, 2025, 11:23:27 am
I never thought that they would do such an illegal thing. Is it possible to check the authorised person with their name and designation?

Please see below the full name of the paralegal

https://ibb.co/rqTSnP4
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on September 25, 2025, 03:02:33 pm
Yes... but you have redacted the name of the person who has signed the N279. The whole point is that we need to see that name because singing the N279 is conducting litigation which is a reserved activity and cannot be Doen by an unauthorised person, even if acting under supervision. You can rest assured that the person who has signed the N279 is not an authorised person and is therefore in breach of the Legal Services Act 2007, a criminal offence!

I suggest you send the following email immediately to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

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Subject: Claim [court ref] – N279 signed “claimant’s solicitor” (paralegal): authority to conduct litigation & signature compliance

Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to the N279 (Notice of Discontinuance) filed/served in this matter. The signature block describes the signatory as “claimant’s solicitor”, position “paralegal” at DCB Legal, with the name shown as “[initial] [surname]”.

Please confirm by return:

• The signatory’s full name (forename and surname), their capacity, and whether they are an “authorised person” within the meaning of the Legal Services Act 2007 with a current right to conduct litigation (provide their SRA/CILEX number and practising status); or, if not,
• The precise exemption relied upon under Schedule 3 of the Legal Services Act 2007 permitting them to conduct litigation and sign the N279 (and any related statements of truth/certifications) in this matter.

For the avoidance of doubt, filing/serving an N279 and related correspondence are acts of “conducting litigation”. If any person purporting to conduct litigation or to sign documents requiring a personal signature is not authorised (or exempt), please confirm the steps you will take to remedy the irregularity, including filing and serving a compliant N279 personally signed by an authorised person, and your position on costs arising.

You are placed on notice that if any signatory or employee is conducting litigation without the required authorisation or exemption, any breach of the Legal Services Act 2007 will be reported to the SRA and I reserve the right to raise it with the Court, including on costs.

Please respond within 7 days.

Yours faithfully,

[full name]

[postal address]
[email]
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 25, 2025, 02:05:18 pm
Thanks. Please let me know if this is what is required.

https://ibb.co/B2VjTZBf
https://ibb.co/dJtLz6Jb
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on September 25, 2025, 12:11:50 pm
Redact means to obscure details, but please post the N279 by redacting your details but not those of the signatory. We want to know who signed it, and in what capacity. We do not need to know your name and address.

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redact
verb [ T ]  formal
 
UK/rɪˈdækt/ US/rɪˈdækt/

to remove words or information from a text before it is printed or made available to the public:
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 25, 2025, 12:01:19 pm
Is it safe to share the document without redacting it? If I understand correctly, the meaning of redact is to share the document without editing the details?
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on September 24, 2025, 01:03:20 pm
I refer you to reply #33 I gave you.

Can you please show us the N279 Notice of Discontinuation (NoD). Please do not redact the signatory of that document.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 24, 2025, 12:10:33 pm
Received a letter from the solicitors to say that they are not going ahead with the case.

A big thank you to all for your help!
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on September 04, 2025, 03:09:25 pm
A classic precursor to a discontinuation. Hold your nerve.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on September 04, 2025, 02:33:16 pm
Normal stuff.
Your choice, but if you stick to the process you’ll pay £0.
They don’t want to spend time and money writing a Witness Statement, nor to attend a court local to you in person.
From their persective it’s not worth it. But only we tell you this.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 04, 2025, 02:31:13 pm
Thanks.

I have also received the following email from dcblegal


"WITHOUT PREJUDICE SAVE AS TO COSTS

 

We write to you in relation to the above matter.

 

To assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our Client may be prepared to settle this case. I can confirm our Client would be agreeable to £60.00 in full and final settlement of this Claim. The current outstanding balance is £343.40.

   

Should you be agreeable to this offer, please confirm the same within 7 days. Payment can be made via our website www.dcblegal.co.uk, by calling our office on 0203 838 7038 or via bank transfer: 

   

DCB Legal Ltd Client Account  

Sort Code: 20-24-09  

Account no: 60964441  

   

When making payment please ensure you include the following reference number, 332045454E, to enable us to allocate it to the correct case.

   

Upon receipt of the settlement sum of £60.00 we will update the Court that the matter has been settled. If you are not agreeable, we will continue to follow the Court process as normal." 
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on September 04, 2025, 10:10:57 am
It won’t be discontinued until just before they have to pay the trial fee of £27 on 7 January 2026. If you have not received a Witness Statement (WS) from the claimant by 17 September, come back and let us know.

Don’t worry about not submitting anything yourself in the meantime.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on September 03, 2025, 11:14:42 pm
Hello,

Received the Notice of Allocation. Please help, as the claim is not struck out. Below is the notice


https://ibb.co/0R033Js5
https://ibb.co/gpqdgtW
https://ibb.co/DPVV08Ns
https://ibb.co/Xkv2QMKT



Thank you!
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on June 12, 2025, 10:02:26 am
Yes, but not at this stage. If the claim is not struck out at allocation, then they will eventually discontinue before the trial fee has to be paid.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on June 12, 2025, 09:50:54 am
Sorry, I was meaning to ask what could happened. Can the court strike the case at all?
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on June 11, 2025, 11:44:05 am
Received an email after mediation as per below. Please advise further

What is not clear about this bit?

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If not already done so. the claim will now be transferred out of our business centre to a court where standard directions will be given and you will be notified in writing of the next stages to follow.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on June 11, 2025, 11:09:37 am
Received an email after mediation as per below. Please advise further

"Thank you for using the Small Claims Mediation Service today.

Although a settlement could not be reached on this occasion the parties are reminded that Court is considered a last resort and in which case both parties are encouraged to continue to communicate where possible in an attempt to resolve the claim, you may find that today's mediation gives you both a base upon which to build on.

If the parties can satisfactorily resolve the matter without the need of the Court, the Claimant should complete a notice of discontinuance using the appropriate form in the link and file it with the appropriate Court; N279 - w3 Notice of discontinuance (6.99) (publishing.service.gov.uk) or update Online Civil Money Claims through your account.

If not already done so. the claim will now be transferred out of our business centre to a court where standard directions will be given and you will be notified in writing of the next stages to follow. It is important that both parties follow these instructions and adhere to the timetable set down by the Court which will include a further court fee and a final hearing for determination of the matter. Further information can be found at; Make a court claim for money: What a court claim is - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Many thanks for your participation in Mediation.

If you require any further information please contact us at the below details."
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on May 27, 2025, 10:48:31 am
I wouldn't. Saying that opens the other side up to say they remember what happened, which is that your vehicle was parked in contravention of the terms etc.

As noted, the mediation call is not a hearing, and it's purpose is not to argue the substance of the case. State that you stand by the contents of your submitted defence, that you do not believe you owe ECP anything, and accordingly you are prepared to offer £0 in return for the case being discontinued.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on May 27, 2025, 10:43:10 am
Much appreciate your help.

Is it okay to say that I cannot even remember what happened, as this was five years ago? I genuinely cannot remember why this PCN was issued in 2020.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on May 21, 2025, 08:07:49 pm
Normal. Your only obligation is to “attend” the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved. You offer £0 and it will be over in minutes.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on May 21, 2025, 11:41:47 am
Thank you all.

Have received an email from SCMS_Confirmation@justice.gov.uk and have received a mediation appointment in June. Below is the email content:
Your telephone mediation appointment

Appointment date: 06/06/2025

Appointment time slot:

Your confidential telephone mediation appointment has been booked for the above date and time slot. This means that the mediator will call you between the times shown. Your appointment will last for around one hour from the point at which the mediator calls.

The mediator will call both parties separately – you will not talk directly to the other side. They will try to help you both come to an agreement before the case goes to court.

Where your mediation appointment is mandatory, If you do not attend the appointment, the judge will take this into consideration at any court hearing and may issue a penalty. This could include the judge automatically ruling in the other party’s favour or ordering you to pay for some or all the other party’s costs.


Preparing for your appointment
You must make sure you have provided us with, or confirmed, the name and number of the person who will be conducting the mediation appointment. If you have not done this, or need to update your telephone number, you should contact us using the details at the end of this letter no less than 5 working days before your mediation appointment. Failure to do so may result in your mediation appointment not taking place and may result in a Judge issuing a penalty where the mediation was mandatory.

The mediator will call from a withheld number. Make sure that withheld numbers are not blocked on your phone.

Be ready to receive a call from the mediator from the beginning of your time slot. The mediator will call the telephone number you provided in your application.

If the mediator cannot contact you within 10 minutes of the appointment start, the appointment will be cancelled and you may, where mediation is mandatory, face a penalty for non-attendance.


Rebooking your appointment
If you need to rebook your appointment, you must have a good reason. The administration team will only consider rebooking in exceptional circumstances, such as an accident or a family bereavement. You must let us know as soon as possible.


Nominating a different representative
If you want someone else to represent you at mediation (like a trusted friend, relative or a solicitor) you must contact the mediation team

If you want to choose someone to attend your mediation appointment on your behalf who is not a part of the claim or is not a legal representative, you will also need to complete a delegated authority form. You can find out more about this on GOV.UK.

Your representative must know the facts of the case, understand how far you’re willing to compromise and have full authority to act on your behalf. You’re legally bound to any settlement agreements your representative makes on your behalf.


What happens in your mediation appointment?
Introduction from the mediator
The mediator will introduce themselves and check that you have read and understood the mediation process.

Explaining your position
You will need to briefly explain your claim or defence to the mediator. You should prepare for yourself a brief summary of the main points.

Negotiating options 
You’re attending mediation with a view to settling your case. This means negotiating to overcome disputed issues. The mediator is neutral and helps each party to explore options and discuss risks. Mediation works when you’re willing to listen to what the other party has to say, negotiate and agree a settlement.

Building agreement
Settlement can be in many different forms, for example, payment, goods or work. Both parties must agree on the outcome and feel they have reached an acceptable resolution.

Reaching a settlement
The mediator will read the terms of the settlement and confirm agreement with each party. Once agreed, the settlement is legally binding and cannot be changed. A copy of the mediation settlement is sent to both parties and placed on the court file.


Confidentiality
All mediation appointments are confidential. An agreed settlement includes a standard confidentiality clause.


Ending the mediation process
The mediator can end the mediation if, at any time:

either party breaches the terms on which they agreed to mediation
there is no prospect that the mediation will end in settlement
the mediator deems it inappropriate to continue in the case that one or both parties are vulnerable users
either party asks to end mediation

Find out more about Small Claims Mediation by watching our video HERE. Find out more in the guide to the Small Claims Mediation Service on GOV.UK.


Small Claims Mediation Service contact details
If you have any complaints or issues to raise about the Mediation Service, contact us by email or telephone:

Email:  scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk

Telephone: 0300 123 4593

Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm

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Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on May 01, 2025, 04:06:06 pm
Nothing unusual. Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on May 01, 2025, 02:22:39 pm
Hi there,

I did send the application, and the court claimed that they never received the justification. When called court admitted their mistake and replied to say they will review and send the decision. However, received a letter from the court to say they have allocated this to small claims. Also, recevied a letter from DCB legal to say that they would like to challenge this further. Please find attached.

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Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on February 11, 2025, 10:13:15 am
At risk of sounding pedantic, they're not going to be found 'guilty' in the civil court. Let's not chastise OPs for asking good faith questions to further their understanding of the process.
Fair point, thanks.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on February 11, 2025, 09:44:11 am
You do not ned to submit an AoS. By submitting an AoS, you gain an extra 2 weeks to submit the defence. In this case, if you do not submit an AoS, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 25th February to submit the defence.

The defence includes a draft order that the allocation judge can choose to use, or not, with which to order the claim be struck out for failing to comply with CPR 16.4. If the allocation judge chooses not to strike out the claim, it will be discontinued in any case before the claimant has to pay the hearing fee.

This is not a criminal matter being tried. There is no finding of guilt as no 'offence' has been committed. This is simply a civil contractual matter and the court, in these cases, is simply a dispute resolution service. ECP are claiming that you are in debt to them and owe them money. The judge decides (if it were ever to get as far as a hearing, which it won't) whether you owe that debt or not.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on February 10, 2025, 10:20:10 pm
if you don’t you’ll probably be found guilty.
[...]what’s the problem?
At risk of sounding pedantic, they're not going to be found 'guilty' in the civil court. Let's not chastise OPs for asking good faith questions to further their understanding of the process.

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Do we have to provide any case reference when we say  ''The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court'' or we are referring to this format as the draft order?
You can just provide it 'as is'
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on February 10, 2025, 10:02:58 pm
The answers to your questions are given in the very helpful post by b789 above:
No AoS means you have less time to submit your defence and if you don’t you’ll probably be found guilty.
Draft Order is given to you to submit as is.

You’re being very helpfully spoon-fed, what’s the problem?
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on February 10, 2025, 06:29:10 pm
Thank you!

What is the use of submitting an AoS and what will be the consequences if chosen to skip it?

Do we have to provide any case reference when we say  ''The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court'' or we are referring to this format as the draft order?

Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on February 10, 2025, 01:47:31 pm
With an issue date of 6th February, you have until 25th February to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). By submitting an AoS, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 11th March to submit your defence. If you do not submit an AoS, then you have until 4pm on Tuesday 25th March to submit the defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of [claimant] v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

[Claimant]

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0)
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on February 10, 2025, 12:53:44 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/YTp8PZTk/Cam-Scanner-02-08-2025-19-28-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rf4MFsf6)
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on February 10, 2025, 12:24:02 pm
Hello all,

I need your expertise. Please would request some advice on the following:

https://ibb.co/jZ8k1cjG
https://ibb.co/C32YWtfb
https://ibb.co/DPxBckRc
https://ibb.co/RpQFpFxq
https://ibb.co/hbXNfMM
https://ibb.co/rf4MFsf6
https://ibb.co/FqHSMMYG

Remembered posting this PCN on Pepipoo years ago but cannot remember what had happened.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on March 13, 2024, 09:55:47 am
Thank you all!
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: The Rookie on March 11, 2024, 09:11:00 pm
That letter is complete BS but designed to scare, no material transfer has happened, ECP still own the debt and are just asking another debt collector to write you scary letters in the hope you are naive enough to fall for it and pay up.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on March 11, 2024, 05:43:28 pm
It's just more debt collector rubbish. use it to line the bottom of a hamster cage.

A letter of claim must state so (or Letter before action or before claim etc>) and must give 30 days to respond and must also include a bunch of forms (that you do NOT fill in). When you get one of those, come back.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on March 11, 2024, 05:41:36 pm
Keep waiting for a Letter Before Claim.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on March 11, 2024, 05:30:19 pm
Hello again,

Received Notice to transfer to solicitors by GCTT. Little confused as initially it was ZZPS and not GCTT enforcement agents?

Please see below:
https://ibb.co/GMV2PVp
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on February 24, 2024, 03:17:31 pm
Thank you b789!
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on February 24, 2024, 03:12:32 pm
It is pointless directing us to an old thread where the most important image of the original NtK is missing. You made a poor POPLA appeal and were unsuccessful. You are now in limbo waiting to see if ECP bother to escalate this into a court claim. It is rare for ECP to continue all the way to a court action.

You should know by now that you can ignore all debt collection letters. The only thing you can do for now is wait and see if ECP issue a Letter of Claim. If they ever do, come back for further advice.

If you move address within 6 years of the alleged contravention, make sure you instruct the DPO of ECP to rectify their records with your new address and to erase your old one.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on February 24, 2024, 02:36:26 pm
Thank you!

I tried to look for the thread for further information but couldn't find it earlier. Please see the below thread for the info

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=130276
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on February 24, 2024, 01:14:47 pm
You'll need to give us rather more information on the situation for us to be able to advise...

Read this thread: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/), and provide us as much of the information requested as you are able to.
Title: Re: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: b789 on February 24, 2024, 01:13:55 pm
How about providing a bit more background if you want some advice?

In the meantime you may want to consider these points:

1. ZZPS (debt collectors) are a third party to any alleged debt you owe ECP and therefore cannot do anything except try to scare you into paying the, by now, exaggerated charge. They will use scary words like "CCJ" and "bailiffs" in the hope that you are low hanging fruit on the gullible tree and their scare tactics will cause you capitulate and pay into the scam.

2. Ignore and never communicate with debt collectors. They are powerless.

3. ECP can take you to court any time up to 6 years after the alleged contravention. They can still "chase" until hell freezes over. They just can't take you to court after 6 years.

So, until you provide us with more detailed information, preferably with evidence of the NtK (both sides) and anything you have said or corresponded with them, there is little else we can do.
Title: ZZPS is chasing contravention dated Oct 2020 on behalf of Euro Car Park Ltd.
Post by: Sonu rocks on February 24, 2024, 12:32:48 pm
Hi,

This was a surprise that ZZPS is still chasing 3 and half-year-old contravention. Please advise on this situation.

Many thanks

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