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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Purple26 on February 17, 2024, 06:21:13 pm

Title: Re: Waltham Forest, 47 stopped on a restricted bust stop or stand, St james Street,
Post by: Purple26 on February 18, 2024, 10:22:16 pm
Thanks  for the advice chaps and draft letter hippocrates.  I will  make a representation   and keep you posted.
Title: Re: Waltham Forest, 47 stopped on a restricted bust stop or stand, St james Street,
Post by: Hippocrates on February 18, 2024, 01:47:41 pm
This is a useful case re camera authorisation. No need to mention it.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1dFUa8HEcUh2HyuDprMyvoP1NZ67kMZWA

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Dear Waltham Forest

Ref: PCN                  VRM

I make these formal representations against the PCN.

1. The evidence shows no upright sign details.
2. The incursion was de minimis.
3. I put you to strict proof that the camera used to capture the alleged contravention has the necessary authorisation from the VCA.

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.

Name (Registered keeper)

Address
Title: Re: Waltham Forest, 47 stopped on a restricted bust stop or stand, St james Street,
Post by: Incandescent on February 17, 2024, 08:06:22 pm
What a money-grubbing PCN !! Disgusting really but difficult to counter. London councils are venal and rapacious, so if you submit reps will send you a Fob-Off letter.  You then must decide whether to take them to London Tribunals. Unless the PCN contains fatal errors this would have to be on a de minimis basis, (offence too trivial for enforcement). However it would depend on what adjudicator you got "on the day", as some won't countenance 10 thousandths of a inch inside a bus stop as de minimis. More shame them.

The main point here is that it isn't where your wheels are, it's where the car/vehicle is. Other OPs on here have been walloped for intruding into yellow lines and saying their wheels weren't on the lines. But their vehicle was within the lines. However see what the others say.
Title: Waltham Forest, 47 stopped on a restricted bust stop or stand, St james Street,
Post by: Purple26 on February 17, 2024, 06:21:13 pm
Hi

I received  a pcn for above.  Would like some advice if it is worth appealing  as my tyres were barely  in the bus stand . Please  see documents in link below.

 Thanks.


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12TmFPczNRPqJNb-LQPsVFXdSml4OFFKV