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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: James Mallom on January 17, 2024, 11:13:58 pm

Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 29, 2024, 10:32:41 am
Can the wording on the pcn  be challenged?
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 29, 2024, 10:18:35 am
That’s it only one side of the pcn is available
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 29, 2024, 09:55:18 am
Hi I have emailed you the badge thank you
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: cp8759 on January 23, 2024, 10:23:12 pm
Can you send me a scan of both sides of the valid blue badge please?
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: H C Andersen on January 23, 2024, 12:29:07 pm
IMO the decision to reject appeals on the basis of the cited case is correct, however I think that the reasoning is incomplete.

The 2007 regs provided:
1.  A penalty charge notice served under regulation 9 must...state—


Whereas the 2022 regs provide:

The information to be included in a penalty charge notice served under regulation 9 is

My emphases.

It seems clear that the current regs take a more relaxed view as regards specifying how matters are to be conveyed and when, as in these cases, two words are synonymous by virtue of their context then IMO this is compliance and the 'information' has been included, let alone substantial compliance.
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: Hippocrates on January 23, 2024, 10:37:18 am
Page 2 of the PCN or is that it?
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 23, 2024, 09:37:46 am
Apologies

https://ibb.co/3S5sdw3
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 23, 2024, 09:36:58 am
Yes I did
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 23, 2024, 09:36:28 am
https://ibb.co/3S5sdw3

Hi it’s only one side

Please let me know your thoughts
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 23, 2024, 09:34:45 am
Hi all please as requested pcn

https://ibb.co/3S5sdw3
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: Hippocrates on January 22, 2024, 11:52:48 am
Quote from: mrmustard on January 22, 2024, 11:03:50 am
doh 2230500116
Ditdoh!
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: mrmustard on January 22, 2024, 11:03:50 am
doh 2230500116
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: Hippocrates on January 22, 2024, 11:00:50 am
Quote from: mrmustard on January 21, 2024, 11:23:13 pm
I now have a bunch against, all by Mr Houghton who reversed his position. 2230500166 is one of them.
Can't find this case.
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: mrmustard on January 21, 2024, 11:28:34 pm
James, please post both sides of the PCN in full.

I would be inclined to challenge online saying you made a simple error and that you displayed the old badge which you have now destroyed and enclose a copy of the current replacement.

Please ask the council to cancel for what is the first error of this type (I assume) and that it can't happen again due to the destruction.
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: mrmustard on January 21, 2024, 11:23:13 pm
I now have a bunch against, all by Mr Houghton who reversed his position. 2230500166 is one of them.

Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: Hippocrates on January 21, 2024, 07:40:57 pm
Mr Mustard and cp8759 have three cases between them in support of the wording error.
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: John U.K. on January 21, 2024, 06:06:03 pm
Quote from: James Mallom on January 21, 2024, 03:47:05 pm
Hi all would kindly appreciate further advice on this issue thank you

Did you email Mr.Mustard?
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: cp8759 on January 21, 2024, 06:05:38 pm
@James Mallom you've redacted pretty much everything from the PCN?

Please repost the PCN without redacting anything, otherwise we have nothing to work with.
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 21, 2024, 03:47:05 pm
Hi all would kindly appreciate further advice on this issue thank you
Title: Re: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: mrmustard on January 17, 2024, 11:16:00 pm
Pcn 28 day wording is wrong. I can do all the writing for you  - email mrmustard@zoho.com
Title: Parked in Designated Diasble Parking
Post by: James Mallom on January 17, 2024, 11:13:58 pm
Hi all I appreciate your advice; In short, I forgot and  used an expired blue badge instead of the valid one an intentionally.

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