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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: koahanee on January 14, 2024, 12:47:50 pm

Title: Re: Sheffield Council, PCN code 40 - Surrey Rd. No marking & no windscreen PCN.
Post by: Incandescent on January 14, 2024, 10:35:57 pm

"The offence did not occur". No visible sign, no offence

Title: Re: Sheffield Council, PCN code 40 - Surrey Rd. No marking & no windscreen PCN.
Post by: koahanee on January 14, 2024, 08:34:32 pm

Have now edited the post to include the full letter etc & should be compliant with the guidance.
Since'incandescent' was kind enough to link the google map street views - have not reposted the links - please see second post.

Can i ask what grounds/which sesction would i appeal under (in terms of the unclear signage/road marking) on the specified grounds page?

Many thanks for any help.

Title: Re: Sheffield Council PCN code 22 - Surrey Rd. No marking & no windscreen PCN
Post by: Incandescent on January 14, 2024, 06:26:53 pm

There is a sign, but only the GSV camera car can see it, or if you're on the top of a double-decker bus !
https://maps.app.goo.gl/p8fca16JfdCWNTcB6
zoom in
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SyyLi17Thxx8LfRz6
Maybe they issue their CEOs with periscopes !

Title: Re: Sheffield Council PCN code 22 - Surrey Rd. No marking & no windscreen PCN
Post by: John U.K. on January 14, 2024, 01:08:40 pm

For meaningful advice please have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up all sides of the 'letter' (only redact your name & address - leave everything else in)
and a GSV (link to the location.

Is the vehicle yours or leased?
If yours, please check that the address details on the V5C are correct in every particular.

Title: Sheffield Council, PCN code 40 - Surrey Rd. No marking & no windscreen PCN.
Post by: koahanee on January 14, 2024, 12:47:50 pm

Hi,

Owner of vehicle.
I received this letter through the post for a Council parking ticket - Parking in a disabled space. However there was no road marking and no signage anywhere to say the area was designated for disabled - as seen in the photos.
The council also didn’t include any photo of the signage in their evidence photos. I genuinely did not know this was a disabled space until the letter went through.
On another note there was no PCN attached to the car when I returned to the vehicle (the PCN was on the cars windscreen in the council photos at 19.42 but not on the car when the  driver returned at around 22.30). I took photos of the car (without the PCN on) and the surrounding as there was a faint mark of sticky materials on my windscreen and saw another car with a PCN on. As I had no PCN, I couldn’t appeal in the first 14 days (as there was no PCN received so no PCN number to appeal on the Council system)

Just wondering if I have a case here and if there is any route to appeal?

Thank you all for your help!

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