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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: Steve051264 on August 29, 2026, 12:16:28 pm
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I'm guessing you weren't the chap that the police phoned on the motorway, or you wouldn't have a ticket? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cjwgwv1wznzo
IMO, as someone who drives "large panel vans", you should be aware of your blind spots and be checking your mirrors regularly. If the police driver was driving according to training, they should be moving to place their car in view of your mirrors. You also insinuated in your first post that you did see the car, but not their blue lights... nor flashing headlamps (if fitted)?
I digress:
You "refused" i.e. did not respond to any of the choices on the ticket? So you've got yourself a court date?
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And "How does this help the OP?" would be Southpaw of the Yard
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Wouldn't "murrrdah!" be Taggart? (The original)
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If it were Morse it would be a case of murrdah! By which time the emergency would be over, no need for the sound and light show.
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If this goes to court, tickets are irrelevant.
You can ask for a spicy meatfeast pizza, but it doesn't mean you're going to get it.
What he probably said was that obstructing an emergency vehicle is not a specific offence if you are not aware that you are obstructing it.
However, if he told you, on bodycam, that he doesn't think you committed any offence whatsoever, but he's going to stick you on anyway because who are the court going to believe, then you probably want to get a copy of the unredacted footage, including the earlier footage of him loosing his sh*t when Lord Lucan overtook him riding Shergar.
If hew was behind you for a significant time with blues and twos on, far enough back that he would have been clearly visible in your mirrors, and you failed to see him, that would seem to be evidence that your driving fell below the standard expected of a careful and competent driver.
That said, on the many, many times I have seen police with blues and twos being held up by oblivious drivers, I've never seen said drivers pulled over for obstructing an emergency vehicle, as the occifer had something more pressing to deal with - hence the blues and twos. However, if Morse had instructed Lewis to put the blues and twos on because he was fed up of sitting in traffic, he might be more inclined to stop and throw the book at someone who had failed to respect his authoritah.
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On the 5th of March, i got stopped for not giving way to a police vehicle. I was in a large panel van and could not see him. Due to bright sunshine, his blue lights gave off no visible ambient light and i could not see him directly due to blind spot. Traffic was fairly heavy and i was in the outside lane passing HGV and other traffic. I could not hear the siren over the noise of the engine, traffic and radio.
He admitted that this wasn't an offence but was going to ticket me as he assumed i wasn't checking my mirrors frequently enough so 'driving without undue care and attention'.
I refused to accept the 3 options on the recieved ticket and complained to the police force but they replied that the court need to deal with it regardless of whether it is a vexatious charge.
I have a copy of video from body worn camera, which has been redacted slightly, but it doesn't really help the officer or myself. I think part of the redacted video shows the officer saying i had not committed an offense. Can i request the full video?
Also, as he could not see me, would an assumption that i wasn't checking my mirrors frequently be enough for him to issue a ticket?