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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: parkingorbit on July 29, 2026, 04:05:48 pm

Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: parkingorbit on August 09, 2026, 05:18:16 pm
Thank you for the reassurance. I will take no actions at this moment and wait for UKPCM to take their next steps (I suppose debt collection services as a first step). I will report back.
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: jfollows on August 03, 2026, 04:20:20 pm
You may also, maybe once UKCPM gives up, consider writing to them and to your management company stating that you have no legal obligation to display any sort of permit when your lease already grants you full access, but that you will consider doing so in future as a convenience to all parties and you will again defend any attempt to imply any sort of breach by not displaying one.

There are probably slightly better words than this but hopefully you see what I mean.
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: InterCity125 on August 03, 2026, 03:42:54 pm
In my opinion, the OPs 'taking part in the scheme' is not an acceptance of any contract.

The contracts (if there were any, which I doubt) would be individual contracts based on each occasion the vehicle came onto the managed land and parked - it's the act of parking and leaving the vehicle on the land which would form the basis of each contract. This is will be backed up by the wording on the NtK - that by parking the driver was deemed to agree to the terms.

The 'taking part in the scheme' argument is therefore irrelevant - it is nothing more than an act of 'community spirit'.

You may be able to use the recent 'open letter' from the CMA to your advantage by picking through it and seeing if there is anything which may benefit a defence if the need arises - this appears to be a clear case of the operator simply seeing the opportunity to charge a 'genuine tenant' £100 irrespective of the fact that the tenant does have 'the right to park a vehicle on the land'.


Front and centre should be the fact that a tenant has primacy of contract over the space meaning that you never need to form an additional contract (each time you use the space) with a third party (the parking operator) because your right to use the space is pre-existing.

Further, common sense dictates that the driver has no need of forming a further third party contract when forming that contract yields a driver nothing (because you have a pre-existing right) but gives the opposing party the sole right to issue you with a £100 charge. (This would probably fall foul of consumer legislation as well as it's clearly an massive imbalance in the contractual rights of both parties.)

On top of that, the parking operator would clearly have access to a database with all current / valid registration marks for permits which had been issued. They could have simply checked your VRM against their database in order to recognise that you have parked a permitted vehicle? (Assuming the permit states a VRM?)


The NtK is not POFA compliant so never reveal the driver.

This is highly unlikely to make it to Court but you may need to defend a Claim - it's pretty straight forward.

In the meantime, you could take the pi$$ a bit and write to the parking operator telling them to remove your space from their management scheme!
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: jfollows on August 03, 2026, 03:16:10 pm
The IAS upholds 4% of the appeals it receives, and I have never seen it uphold one on rights to park in allocated parking spaces under a lease.

If your lease esentially gives you unfettered right to park, a parking company can’t impose terms on something you already have a right to do. The “breach of the displayed terms” is nonsense.

You can display a permit as a convenience to you if you want, but it’s not a requirement.

The IAS is supposed to be operated by people with legal training, but we have never seen any evidence of that and doubt it very much.

In the absence of any help from management, you should assume you will receive a Letter of Claim followed by a county court claim. Most court claims get discontinued as long as they are properly defended, and you seem to have the basis for a proper defence.

I suggest you search the forum for similar cases, brought by UKCPM or others. I don’t recall any of them that are fully documented (ie that are documented to completion) going in favour of the claimant.
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: parkingorbit on August 02, 2026, 08:14:29 pm
I hope you all had a fantastic weekend. I very much welcome some advice. Thank you!
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: parkingorbit on July 29, 2026, 07:01:41 pm
Management didn't help... Basically their tone is: You knew the rules and broke them. We don't want to get involved.

Updated and added documents by modifying the original post (to keep it all nicely together).

Thank you!
Title: Re: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: RichardW on July 29, 2026, 06:14:26 pm
You are right on the options.

Please post up the rear of the PCN, your appeals, and the relevant sections of the lease.

On the face of it, they would have a hard time convincing a judge that there had been a breach of contract, but there are no guarantees. There also appear to be failings in the NTK for POFA compliance so as long as you haven't ID'd the driver that should be another defence point if / when it comes to a court case.

Have you tried the management co to get it cancelled?
Title: PCN - Residential, partner's demised parking space - UKCPM
Post by: parkingorbit on July 29, 2026, 04:05:48 pm
Operator: UK Car Park Management. Residential development, share of freehold, managed by a resident-director management company.

Hi! First time posting here. I would very much appreciate your help. I hope I provided the right amount of info. Thank you.

Timeline
Undisputed facts

My grounds

The operator's case

The adjudicator's decision (dismissed)
Boiled down to five findings:
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Question
Basically - what now? Do I pay up or have a valid case? If I don't pay I suppose they will take me to court? How to prepare for it?

Documents


Thank you very much for any help.