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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Rightbak on July 21, 2026, 04:56:39 pm
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From where I parked I could not see the sign at all as it was completely covered by the hedge.
And this is what worries me and wherein lies your problem IMO. If you imagine for a moment that it wasn't there, then on parking your duty was to discover a traffic sign which did convey the restriction and you should have looked and found the other sign. The legal test is that signage should be adequate.
So, if you did see the post then with minimal effort you could have read the sign, but if you did not then you should have found the other(the 'only' in this scenario) traffic sign.
This is my worry at adjudication. Given the moderate length of the parking place then IMO a single sign would suffice to meet the 'adequacy' test.
There will be other views.
You lose nothing by making reps within the 14-day period.
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IMO, you would struggle at adjudication.
Your photos are from improbable angles because these are not where a driver would view the sign. In any event, the second sign in the parking place is clear and approx. 20m from the sign in question, therefore even if there wasn't even a sign where you parked, the other one would be considered adequate.
Make reps within the 14-day period and safeguard the discount.
From where I parked I could not see the sign at all as it was completely covered by the hedge. The CEO had to take his photo from close up and under the hedge to get his shot, and even his angle does not show the full sign or the permit letter required. My photo is from directly opposite the sign at eye height where I felt someone would stand to read it? But yes you are correct the other sign is clear - although I did not walk past it. Is there a templated appeal response to use, or would it be better if I post my own appeal here for review?
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IMO, you would struggle at adjudication.
Your photos are from improbable angles because these are not where a driver would view the sign. In any event, the second sign in the parking place is clear and approx. 20m from the sign in question, therefore even if there wasn't even a sign where you parked, the other one would be considered adequate.
Make reps within the 14-day period and safeguard the discount.
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Hi
There is an additional sign further down the bay, but the officer did not take a photo of the car in relation to it.
Here it is from StreetView - taken from directly adjacent to the covered parking sign. The other sign is at the far end that can just me made out.
https://imgpile.com/p/EUqskEd
Best if you send a GSV link rather than a screen capture. It means we can mozy around the location.
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Hi
There is an additional sign further down the bay, but the officer did not take a photo of the car in relation to it.
Here it is from StreetView - taken from directly adjacent to the covered parking sign. The other sign is at the far end that can just me made out.
https://imgpile.com/p/EUqskEd
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Looks like the CEO may have moved a few twigs to make the sign more visible.
Looks a good case if that's the only parking sign in that bay.
How good are the bay markings.
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Hi all
Hampshire County Council
(Code 16) Parked in a permit space without displaying a valid permit
Location: Riverside Avenue, Fareham, PO16 8TF
I parked in the space without seeing the sign (as you will see from photos, the sign was enclosed by a hedge!). I do not have a valid permit. I have not paid the PCN at this point.
Here is a link to the PCN photos
https://imgpile.com/p/GsNclO4
And my photos taken of PCN, hedge and parking sign
https://imgpile.com/p/PvdXlfw
Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks :)