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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: bluebell on July 08, 2026, 01:04:07 pm
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OK, so here's the No Left Turn sign, (with days and times), but it'll be side-on to you coming out of Coston's Lane.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yCRVfg7GQFZA9NV78
The main point to make is that the council will not give way, so you'd have to take them to London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play. If you are not prepared to do that, then submitting reps could be considered a waste of time. They will reject your reps and re-offer the discount, as they do to almost 100% of reps they receive.
You have an adequate case, not slam-dunk, I'm afraid, because your case is based on inadequate signage. The problem is that 'inadequate' is subjective so you would have to convince an adjudicator it is not adequate.
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Can you see it now?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/CbhxdenBnHD71gKP8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hjFhCRDPHjfvtZMY6
I can't see any sign on Google Maps, as it's an old photo from 2019; I can't see any newer one. The signage was introduced last year. I work at a nearby school and travel this way daily-with one exception: on the day I finished work earlier and drove through the roard @1532.whislt usually I drive through after 4 pm. Restrictions are in place between 2:30-3:45pm. My issue is with the poor signage, which doesn't give you any warning about the restricted zone; only once you complete your turn, but even then, the sign is to the left, very high up
I shared how the sign looks in my original post with the links from my PCN and my dashcam + pictures of the school sign zone I found online.
I googled 'Costons Lane' on this forum, and it seems people have the same issue with the signpost. Someone said on another thread that there is a no left turn sign on Greenford Road. I wouldn't see it, as I drove from Costons Lane, crossing Greenford Road and then turning left onto Costons Lane, where the sign is positioned in a way,that you will only see it once you turn onto Costons Lane
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Sorry, I mean a link like this one: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mPr5eQGWs6EmAsBK6
If you look at the little black box top left of the view, click on the three vertical dots. You'll get a white box with three things to select. Select "Share or embed image". Click on that and you'll get another white box headed "Share". Click on "copy link", and the link will go into your Clipboard and youo can then paste it into your thread
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hi,
I was driving from Greenford Rd, turning left onto Costons Lane; no additional signs were seen before my turning. My drive journey was Costons Lane- turning right onto Greenford Road- then a left turn onto Costons Lane.
https://imgpile.com/p/ABZvCiB#bbAZT90
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qsi3svg3uzMUjkiN6
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Can you post a GSV link to the location, please.
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hi,sorry-thank you so much
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Is a civil penalty, I’ll ask the moderators to move to the correct section.
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Hi all,
I would be very grateful for your help.
Date of contravention: 16/06/26
Date of notice: 01/07/26 (Received 03/07/26)
VRM : FV56RJX
Place : Costons Lane/Greenford
Contravention 53J: failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone
I received a PCN via post from London Borough Of Ealing for driving through time restricted School Zone area, during the restricted hours. Restrictions 2:30-3:45 pm.I was driving down the busy Greenford rd, turning left onto Costons lane.
Upon reviewing the video footage, there is a sign away from the driver's view, high up-impossible to read in time when turning left, due to traffic coming out of Costons Lane, as well as the traffic turning into Costons Lane from the opposite direction on Greenford Rd, onto Costons Lane. I believe the signage is inadequate and impossible to read in time, as its position is on the corner of Costons lane, away from the driver's view. I entered the traffic on Greenford rd from Costons lane
The attached dashcam footage was recorded last week because my dashcam had overwritten the original recording.My point of argument is that the sign is positioned at a busy junction, high up,away from my view, at the point of turning left, and not on the driver's side-impossible to read in time while turning left from the busy rd. The council's footage shows a child waiting to cross on the island,so my eyes would be focused on the pedestrian to turn safely.
I want to fight back and wanted to appeal to the council, but after reading up silently here, I came to seek your help and advice. I have 14 days from the beginning of this notice to pay at reduce cost. I'm not sure if I have 14 days or 28 to appeal against this. I wasn't able to find a clear sign on Google Maps, it seems this is relatively new signage for a school zone.
PCN Ealing footage https://imgpile.com/p/nHqfqeT
Dashcam Greenford rd left turn to Costons lane https://imgpile.com/p/yyrjnGj#17fisy6
Dashcam Costons Lane right turn onto Greenford rd https://imgpile.com/p/jCBBdob#B3B2lxh
Google map: https://imgpile.com/p/ABZvCiB
Signage: https://imgpile.com/p/WGi5UGl#D1wPgqH
Detail https://imgpile.com/p/MR9MR5Y#ZOcseDs
I'm not very good with technology, so I hope you'll be able to view the attached videos and images.
Thank you for your help!