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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: drivingbloke on June 29, 2026, 11:17:41 am

Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: drivingbloke on June 29, 2026, 01:06:01 pm
Thank you, most useful.  Guess I can live with 3pts & £100. 

Was thinking it would be more like 6pts

Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: FuzzyDuck on June 29, 2026, 12:47:47 pm
There is nothing to defend at this stage. You must first name the driver. The police will then (most likely) will offer of a Conditional Offer of a fixed Penalty (£100 and 3 points), which you can either accept or ignore. Ignoring it will then see it move to court phase via a Single Justice Procedure Notice, this may not happen for several months. Only when you get to the SJPN stage is any evidence the police going to rely on required to be released.

Ignoring the CoFP could be an expensive mistake, the police will have apple evidence of the offence and the vehicle in question. And since you will have named the driver it is pretty much a slam dunk for them.
Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: drivingbloke on June 29, 2026, 12:26:52 pm
Ah!  I didn't go that far on the portal to see if there was an option to put any 'defence'

The offence is 70 in a 50 limit. I have been using the stretch of road for years and became lazy reading signs and only realised after that the limit had been reduced. Annoyingly I saw them on the bridge but was not concerned as I was below the previous limit

Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: 666 on June 29, 2026, 12:19:29 pm
Thanks for the reply.  But if they are using those images as evidence, and these are from the Met Police portal,  then should they not be required to be viable? 

If not should the Video not be on their too?

Images could be of any car there is no way of confirming its mine
 

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7nxv6kjtaq8dwhs7fqgn9/2026-06-29_120203.jpg?rlkey=wf9a9dvz28hiakz4plw9c5irc&st=rtalwxx1&dl=0)
You don't know they're using them as evidence. The police do not have to provide evidence at this stage: those images are provided simply as a courtesy.

You cannot "challenge" anything at this stage, and you must simply respond naming the driver.

You haven't told us what speed and limit are involved, so he/she may or may not be offered a course and/or a fixed penalty. If they are not, or if those offers are declined, than the case will proceed to court, and the evidence will then be disclosed.
Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: andy_foster on June 29, 2026, 12:10:20 pm
No
Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: drivingbloke on June 29, 2026, 12:05:54 pm
Thanks for the reply.  But if they are using those images as evidence, and these are from the Met Police portal,  then should they not be required to be viable? 

If not should the Video not be on their too?

Images could be of any car there is no way of confirming its mine
 

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7nxv6kjtaq8dwhs7fqgn9/2026-06-29_120203.jpg?rlkey=wf9a9dvz28hiakz4plw9c5irc&st=rtalwxx1&dl=0)
Title: Re: Unclear Image
Post by: FuzzyDuck on June 29, 2026, 11:42:40 am
The images are merely stills from a continuous video, So they have "pinged" a vehicle at distance and determined it is over the speed limit, and then continued to video it until the registration is visible. Suspect they have enough evidence to convict.
Title: Unclear Image
Post by: drivingbloke on June 29, 2026, 11:17:41 am
Simple one I think

Went online to see the images (from a mobile camera), for which there are 3.  First two show a speed but the images are so blurry its impossible to see the registration the third does show but the speed is shown as ---mph


Apart from 2 awareness courses over the last 9 years have not has a speeding fine in over 40 years so I'm not exactly a serial offender



Can I challenge the evidence as being unclear ?