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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: StayWoke on June 19, 2026, 07:04:29 pm

Title: Re: Lewisham Code 19r (Parking in Residents' with Expired Permit) Granville Park
Post by: StayWoke on June 19, 2026, 07:31:34 pm
I guess the 10 minute legislation is based on this: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/71/regulation/5 . I didn't know it was based in law, I just thought it was council policies.

My Visitors permit was valid "until" 10:23. It only becomes expired at 10:24. The CEO issued the PCN on 10:33:01, and so that is definitely within the 10 minute grace period right, no matter how you cut it?  The wording of the law is that it must "exceed" 10 minutes. I'm surprised their machines let them print tickets like this within the grace period. They were clearly aware of the expired permit, given they have it down as Code 19.
Title: Re: Lewisham Code 19r (Parking in Residents' with Expired Permit) Granville Park
Post by: stamfordman on June 19, 2026, 07:18:01 pm
So the permit was valid until 10:23. PCN issued 10:33.

That's the full 10 mins grace period and the CEO should have issued at 10:34.

Is my take.
Title: Lewisham Code 19r (Parking in Residents' with Expired Permit) Granville Park
Post by: StayWoke on June 19, 2026, 07:04:29 pm
Hi all, thanks in advance for anyone taking the time to respond.


I've just moved to a new flat in Lewisham and still sorting out the paperwork to be able to get a Residents' Permits. Instead I've been paying for tonnes of one-day/one-hour Visitor's Permits to park outside my flat when I have the car there. You can buy as many of them as you like, but the website is incredibly awful/buggy and you can't buy them in advance. This means I have to set alarms every hour sometimes for when my permit expires to buy a new one. In this case:

That's my mitigation. In terms of technicalities, this spreadsheet (https://bit.ly/2ALghSS) helpfully let me know that Lewisham is one of the councils that don't give you any address to pay the PCN. I thought that should make it an open and shut case given the very clear wording of the LLATFL Act 2003 (Section 4  (8)(vii)):  (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted) PCNs must state: "the address to which payment of the penalty charge must be sent". But then I went to have a look at the Adjudicator decisions, and realised what a kangaroo-court the London Tribunals ETA are. I found decisions in that same spreadsheet where the adjudicator ruled against such appeals for some ridiculous reasons.

I actually can't believe that these kind of inconsistent decisions can be come up with by adjudicators who are supposed to be Solicitors with 5 years of experience minimum.


I think I stand a good chance at informal representations stage, just with my mitigation, based on the enforcement guidance (https://bit.ly/3pc9sDp) where they say if someone is a Resident parked outside their own home in a resident's bay, if the renewal was delayed by administrative processes withing Parking Services (is it worth quoting that phrase verbatim when explaining the website freezing, or would that be too on the nose?)

I'm of course going to make representations, but am looking for advice for what I should say/mention in the representations and other tips/advice.


On a maybe unrelated point, when I view the address in Lewisham's Traffic Order View here (https://lewisham.traffweb.app/traffweb/1/TrafficOrders), the legend/details all appear to be consistent with what's on the road, but when you click on View Documents, it brings up a Schedule P20 PDF which is a map shifted on the wrong location that doesn't show the right location at all.


Once again, thank you to everyone who takes the time to respond.