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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 03:14:09 pm

Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 13, 2026, 03:38:07 pm
My appeal;

The registered keeper of the above vehicle writes to formally appeal the Parking Charge Notice referenced above. No contract was formed with the driver on the date in question. There was no clear or visible signage at the entrance to the land to indicate that it was private property subject to parking terms and conditions. In the absence of prominent entrance signage, the driver was not given reasonable notice of any contractual terms prior to parking. Furthermore, the signage relied upon in your photographic evidence appears not to be permanently affixed and is shown merely leaning against the communal wooden bin area. The registered keeper has since inspected the location and confirms that the sign was not present at the time the vehicle was parked and is not currently present at the site. The fact that the sign was not fixed in place and is not ordinarily present raises serious concerns regarding its legitimacy, permanence, and whether it was genuinely installed as part of a compliant signage scheme. The temporary nature of the sign as shown in your evidence gives rise to concern that it may have been positioned solely for enforcement purposes at the time the PCN was issued. This matter will be formally raised with the land managing agents, namely SIPPI Ltd and The Hyde Group, who are understood to have responsibility for the land in question. Given that: * There was no clear entrance signage, * The alleged terms were not prominently displayed, * The sign shown is not permanently installed, * The sign was not present at the time of parking and is not present now, * The incident occurred during hours of darkness (approximately 03:14), further reducing visibility, it is denied that any contractual agreement was entered into by the driver. In the absence of clear, prominent, and properly installed signage capable of forming a legally binding contract, this charge is unfounded and must be cancelled. Should you reject this appeal, the registered keeper requires: 1. Strict proof of the signage layout in place on the date in question, 2. Dated photographic evidence showing the sign securely installed at the material time, 3. A site map showing the location of all signage, 4. Evidence of your legal standing to issue and pursue parking charges at this location. Please confirm cancellation of this Parking Charge Notice or provide the necessary information to enable independent adjudication. The registered keeper does not consent to any processing of personal data beyond that required for the purposes of this appeal. Yours faithfully, Registered Keeper
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: InterCity125 on June 13, 2026, 03:33:48 pm
Could show us the wording which you used in your appeal to the parking operator?
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 13, 2026, 12:20:50 pm
I have requested CPM to tell me which sign was used so I can see how far away the sign was to my car. Should I go via the IAS? And what should I say? Does the discrepancy of where the letter says my vehicle was parked to where it actually was?
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: DWMB2 on June 13, 2026, 12:06:59 pm
The OP has already appealed to the operator and had this rejected. The operator is an IPC member, so no POPLA.

Primacy of contract might be a difficult argument here with no mention of parking in the lease, and according to the OP not advertised with parking included.

I think we need to see the signage (and lack thereof in the relevant area).
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: InterCity125 on June 13, 2026, 07:43:30 am
The NtK is non compliant in a number of ways - this can be used with POPLA but won't be accepted by the operator.

Personally, I would appeal to the operator (in order to obtain a POPLA Code) purely as vehicle keeper.

Your appeal point is that you feel that by renting the property the landlord has given the tenant direct permission to park one vehicle on the land and, as such, in that circumstance, there is no further requirement for the vehicle driver to enter into a separate contract with a private parking contractor in order to park.

This is known as primacy of contract.

The operator will almost certainly reject the appeal.

We can then word a POPLA appeal using the non compliant PoFA argument which will be far more difficult for them to rebut.


Quick question, have you tried pressuring the landowner to get this cancelled?
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 06:35:49 pm
It’s rented and I don’t believe it was, but when we moved in we were advised that we needed to get a e-permit for the vehicle.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: InterCity125 on June 12, 2026, 06:32:55 pm
Thank you for the patience. I have just revised my tenancy agreement and there is nothing about parking.

I have also contacted Hyde group who are in charge of the land they don’t have any record of parking agreements/lease with residents.



Do you own the property or is it rented?

If rented, was it advertised with parking included?
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 04:49:53 pm
I just read the letter and there are some issues the vehicle was parked outside 13 Besson street, SE14 5AE not 101 Besson street! Can I use that against them? The postcode stated does have signs but where I parked my car which is 13 Besson street SE14 5AE does not have any parking signs around? They’re like a 3/5min walk apart!!
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 04:40:35 pm
This is the original PCN received via post:

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Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: InterCity125 on June 12, 2026, 04:33:17 pm
It would be helpful if you could post up the PCN redacting only personal information.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 04:12:24 pm
Thank you for the patience. I have just revised my tenancy agreement and there is nothing about parking.

I have also contacted Hyde group who are in charge of the land they don’t have any record of parking agreements/lease with residents.

We received a letter at the start of the year saying that we had to get a permit via an app called ‘Sippi’ to park as it will be enforced by CPM. There was no signs at all near where I parked.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: DWMB2 on June 12, 2026, 03:48:51 pm
It would be helpful to see the exact wording of your lease in relation to parking.

You should get some photos showing the layout and prominence (or lack thereof) of the signage and the site, particularly in relation to where the vehicle was parked.

Signage arguments can be somewhat harder to run in residential cases, as you're clearly aware of the presence of the parking company by virtue of having one of their permits, but this doesn't absolve them of the requirement to properly communicate the terms.

But let's start by exhausting the "terms of lease" argument as above.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 03:37:49 pm
It does say anything about how to park. Just that we need to obtain a permit and follow the parking terms and conditions displayed. The permits are digital.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: jfollows on June 12, 2026, 03:33:12 pm
You didn’t answer my question.
What does your lease say about parking?
OK, so it’s not an allocated parking space, but does it say you can park anywhere, and does it say you have to display a permit when parking? Or not?
CPM can’t impose their own “rules” on you unless you agree to them formally, if they are a variation on the terms of your lease.
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 03:28:19 pm
The lease does not give us a specific parking space. But there is no signs around the parking area to tell us T&Cs on where we can/can’t park. The sign used in the picture was not there when I parked and is not there now. I have a picture of the entrance before the PCN. Was issued and one after with no signs on entrance. I’m assuming the operator went to the other side of the residential area that does have signs. I thought that invalidated the PCN as it’s being enforced with no signage?
Title: Re: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: jfollows on June 12, 2026, 03:24:32 pm
In addition to your “permit”, what does your lease, leashold or assured tenancy agreement say about parking? Do you have an allocated space, or does your lease etc. permit you to park in the car park? Yes, you probably need to appeal to the IAS, who will probably reject your appeal, but first of all you need to establish your legal position and whether or not a parking company has any authority to issue an invoice to you for breaking its terms, especially if you already have unfettered permission without a requirement to display a permit.
Title: CPM private parking appeal rejected
Post by: alexB on June 12, 2026, 03:14:09 pm
I have been issued for parking inappropriately outside my flat. I have a permit to park in the car park but there is no signs around area or on entry. The CEO has used a sign that was taken down and placed in a random place by neighbours not where they have mapped it out. I appealed on the basis that that sign used is not there and was never there (which is true) but they have rejected this and asking me to pay £100 or go to the IAS. What should I do?

Website: CPM
PCN:50977400
VRN: EJ57ZFP

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