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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: benlandau on June 05, 2026, 02:00:07 pm
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The search term "UKPC" would probably be a good start?
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Thanks jfollows. Can you suggest what I should be searching for on the forum? I get very easily lost on the threads. Really appreciate your patience!!!
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Ignore debt collectors such as ZZPS and wait until you receive a Letter of Claim from a solicitor, to which you should send a simple reply, you will see examples if you search the forum or you can post it here at the time.
If you search the forum now you won’t be taken by surprise when you receive the letter.
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Thank you for replies - I didn't get an email notification as I previously have and wasn't aware there had been further comments!
As I understand it then, the NtK (seen here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TknF7MRtENnotc86pnL3I0v9NwIdPd3x/view) fails to comply with legislation for a number of reasons.
At what point do I raise these points? Do I do so once I hear from ZZPS, or just ignore them until I hear from county court claim?
Grateful for your help - I find all of this extremely confusing!!
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If you mean https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/ukpc-broadwalk-edgware-london/msg123672/#msg123672 then you were given input on appeal points and your statement that “the previous one has gone dead” is untrue.
ZZPS are useless and can be ignored.
UKPC will not “reinstate” the original PCN.
If UKPC now initiate a county court claim against you, you have appeal points which, if properly followed, will usually result in a discontinuation. But you should search the forum to see this for yourself.
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Starting new thread as the previous one has gone dead.
On 15th May, a PCN was given for parking outside the marked bay. PCN can be seen here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qm_W6duN2v9HsBOVig6Yfol1l9eUXV9N/view?usp=drive_link
No PCN was placed on the vehicle and the registered keeper never received the PCN in the post. The first they heard of it was on 3rd June when a final reminder arrived in the post.
After spending a couple of days turning the house upside down looking for the PCN and coming here for guidance, the registered keeper contacted UKPC to inform them no PCN had been received and to request the PCN.
On 3rd July an email was sent to the registered keeper by UKPC - it can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M2U52JfF-yXid-_GRfsGQ1-2sro4VRVueaGuWyh48D4/edit?usp=sharing
Is there anything that can be done to have UKPC reinstate the initial PCN so an appeal can be made, or at least the reduced fine?
Is there any other angle that can be taken to contest ZZPS?
Thanks for your help
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The NtK also fails to meet the requirements of PoFA Schedule 4 Paragraph 9(2)(b) - the notice fails to convey the fact that 'the parking charges have not been paid in full'.
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Where is the “period of parking” on the Notice to Keeper?
9(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.
(2)The notice must—
(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;
There will be other PoFA failings as well, I’m sure.
Compare the notice with the requirements of the legislation linked to in Reply #6.
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I've finally heard back from UKPC:
Here's the initial PCN: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qm_W6duN2v9HsBOVig6Yfol1l9eUXV9N/view?usp=sharing
Here's the email they sent today:
Good afternoon,
Thank you for your email.
Please be advised your name and address was obtained from the DVLA, as you are the registered keeper of the vehicle. The parking charge notice was sent to you on 20/05/26 and a final reminder was sent to you on 03/06/26. Please see attached PDF copies of these notices.
The correspondence we have sent, and the frequency at which it has been sent, is wholly in line with the guidelines set out in the relevant sections of the British Parking Association Code of Practice.
While we understand your comments, we do not have control over any postal issues / postal service.
BPA: 21.4a A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered and so “given” on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday.
The opportunity to appeal this charge further has expired, the charge has subsequently been referred to our debt recovery agent. To make payment, or request information, please contact:
ZZPS can be reached directly on 01932 918916 or by emailing customerservices@zzps.co.uk
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Complaints Department
Anything I can do here? Happens to be I literally never received the original PCN but not sure how one is expected to prove the absence of something!!!
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In the meantime, do you want to give us the driver’s story here? Any background will be helpful to the defence along with the original PCN.
I'll work on getting the PCN. Other than that, not much I can say about the background. Only salient point is that as you may be able to see from the image in the doc, that to the rear of the space, there's a lamppost with metal bars around it for protection. The driver wanted to avoid colliding with the metal frame.
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In the meantime, do you want to give us the driver’s story here? Any background will be helpful to the defence along with the original PCN.
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Yes - that's exactly why we suggested it when you mentioned that you didn't have the original PCN.
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Send a Subject Access Request asking for all the personal information they hold on you.
Look it up!
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/ took me seconds to find
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Thanks. If I do the subject access request, will that include the PCN?
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Well firstly I'm keen to see if the good people here are aware of any universally applicable strategies could be deployed here.
If not, there is always the fact that the registered keeper of the vehicle was not the one who carried out the alleged contravention.
The driver entered into a contract by parking, according to the signs at the site, and is now liable under the contract to pay. You have told us nothing about what the driver did or didn’t do at the time.
The liability can be transferred to the registered keeper if the original notice complied with the requirements of the Protections of Freedom Act 2012 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4) but in order to know this we need to see the original PCN.
In addition, if you search the forum for other UKPC cases you will get a better idea of possible strategies.
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Why would you pay the initial fee?
It's a con.
Write to them with a Subject Access Request in order to get the original PCN and then we can help.
Thanks for this. How do I get them to resend the initial PCN?
Send a Subject Access Request asking for all the personal information they hold on you.
Look it up!
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/ took me seconds to find
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Unlikely.
They will say the original PCN was sent to the same address.
You have a limited time remaining to appeal, if so what would your appeal be? What background can you give us to help you here?
They will say that the driver entered into a contract by reading the signs and by parking, and agreed to pay accordingly. So are the signs clear?
Well firstly I'm keen to see if the good people here are aware of any universally applicable strategies could be deployed here.
If not, there is always the fact that the registered keeper of the vehicle was not the one who carried out the alleged contravention.
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Why would you pay the initial fee?
It's a con.
Write to them with a Subject Access Request in order to get the original PCN and then we can help.
Thanks for this. How do I get them to resend the initial PCN?
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Unlikely.
They will say the original PCN was sent to the same address.
You have a limited time remaining to appeal, if so what would your appeal be? What background can you give us to help you here?
They will say that the driver entered into a contract by reading the signs and by parking, and agreed to pay accordingly. So are the signs clear?
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Why would you pay the initial fee?
It's a con.
Write to them with a Subject Access Request in order to get the original PCN and then we can help.
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This was received at Broadwalk Shopping Centre, Edgware, London.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TknF7MRtENnotc86pnL3I0v9NwIdPd3x/view?usp=sharing
Two queries; How can we get this cancelled?
If we can't, this was the first we heard of it - can we get them to reinstate initial fee?
Thanks all