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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Circle87 on May 26, 2026, 09:28:01 pm
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You don't need any photos.
You now have to wait to see if they pursue the matter further.
There is nothing further to do at this point in time.
You are now waiting for a 'Letter Before Claim' which we can then respond to.
So I haven't received any "letter before claim" or any NtK. I've received a debt recovery letter. So I've received one letter, and one debt recovery letter. They claim they had sent a 2nd letter when I requested the FoI request but I never received it. So, I feel like I haven't even had an opportunity to appeal.
Where do I go from here please? I'm at a loss. I don't feel £170 at all fair and the small amount of time before palming the feeling off to a debt collection agency already?
Please see 2nd and most recent letter.
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You could try an appeal on the basis that the original PCN was not delivered and that first knowledge of the situation came from the reminder.
I would ask ECP first if you can appeal before you reveal the appeal details.
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I'll get photos tomorrow and post up.
On a side note, I just received a private message linking me to a website www.ninjapcn.co.uk where you type in the postcode of the car park of the PCN, this one is CT21 4HL, and it tells you automatically if the PCN is valid and or appealable.
I did this and it came back with:
"🛑 Deadline Alert: You are more than 28 days past the issue date of your PCN. A formal POPLA/IAS appeal is legally timed out.
How is this even fair if the PCN was issued 11th April and I only received the final notification 2 days ago!?!? That's crazy. There must be a formal appeals process. Please help!
As I said before I'll post pictures when I get a chance tomorrow.
Hi there, it is worth trying to appeal even if the deadline has passed. Just put the date of your final notification and download the template...then follow the steps. Good luck!
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Ah ok. Thanks for letting me know. I'll wait for something in the post and reply here once received... If I ever do.
Thanks.
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You don't need any photos.
You now have to wait to see if they pursue the matter further.
There is nothing further to do at this point in time.
You are now waiting for a 'Letter Before Claim' which we can then respond to.
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The car park is owned / provided by Kent County Council and this is why the ECP NtK is not PoFA compliant - they don't even mention PoFA.
You have missed the appeal deadline so you now have to play the long game.
Never reveal the driver.
There is no way to keeper liability in this matter so rest easy.
Thank you. Sorry only just seen this. I'll get photos posted tomorrow and will wait to hear any more. Thanks.
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I'll get photos tomorrow and post up.
On a side note, I just received a private message linking me to a website www.ninjapcn.co.uk where you type in the postcode of the car park of the PCN, this one is CT21 4HL, and it tells you automatically if the PCN is valid and or appealable.
I did this and it came back with:
"🛑 Deadline Alert: You are more than 28 days past the issue date of your PCN. A formal POPLA/IAS appeal is legally timed out.
How is this even fair if the PCN was issued 11th April and I only received the final notification 2 days ago!?!? That's crazy. There must be a formal appeals process. Please help!
As I said before I'll post pictures when I get a chance tomorrow.
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Thank you for your reply.
I am not sure if the land is covered by byelaws or not. How would one find this out?
You can use this (http://www.ninjapcn.co.uk) tool that I developed to check if you have grounds for appeal. You can check the postcode of your PCN and if grounds for appeal are found, a custom template can be downloaded. It is totally free as I am trying to launch it. Hopefully it won't get me banned. I am trying to help.
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The car park is owned / provided by Kent County Council and this is why the ECP NtK is not PoFA compliant - they don't even mention PoFA.
You have missed the appeal deadline so you now have to play the long game.
Never reveal the driver.
There is no way to keeper liability in this matter so rest easy.
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There are no big noticeboards where the ANPR is and the signs inside the car park are just as bad.
Do you have (or can you easily acquire) photos to demonstrate this? Poor signage could be a ground of challenge. Photos showing the entrance, signage around the site, close ups of the terms, and wider shots showing their prominence would all be useful.
So technically we did have a ticket.
The allegation is that no valid pay and display or permit was purchased. Displaying a ticket someone else purchased for a different vehicle isn't of help here.
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I've had a reply from Euro Car Parks see the attached.
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I haven't received the first and original PCN so I feel it's unfair I haven't been given a chance to pay at the discounted rate. As I've said before a kind lady gave us her physical ticket which we displayed on the dash and still had a few hours on it. So technically we did have a ticket.
There are no big noticeboards where the ANPR is and the signs inside the car park are just as bad.
Quite simply, on what grounds do I have grounds to appeal this?
Thanks again for your support and assistance.
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That’s helpful, thank you.
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I have sent the following email:
Dear Data Protection Officer,
I am writing to exercise my right of access under Article 15 of the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and Section 45 of the Data Protection Act 2018.
My details are as follows:
Full Name:
Address
Parking Charge Notice Number: 88811626553
Vehicle Registration Number: GF75TYA
I request copies of all personal data you hold on me, including but not limited to:
- All personal data obtained from the DVLA or any other third party in connection with the above vehicle registration;
- All images, photographs or ANPR data captured of the vehicle;
- All records relating to the Parking Charge Notice issued at Brockhill Country Park, Hythe on 11/04/2026;
- All correspondence sent or received in connection with me or the above PCN;
- Details of all third parties with whom my personal data has been shared;
- Your legal basis for processing my personal data;
- The retention period applied to my personal data.
Please provide the information in a commonly used electronic format. Under UK GDPR you are required to respond without undue delay and within one calendar month of receipt of this request.
Proof of identity to process this request is attached, please let me know you require addition or different proof of identity and I will provide it promptly.
Yours faithfully.
I'll endeavour to update you with their reply.
Thanks,
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You write to their Data Protection Officer asking for all personal information.
There are examples here and templates and guidance on the Internet.
You need to provide proof of identity as part of the process.
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/ is just one example
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Just wondering, to obtain and SAR which option is most suited? I was thinking "General Enquiry"? Or "Appeal"? I don't want them to take forever to get back to me because this will just go further and further and I want to appeal it. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.
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I am not sure if the land is covered by byelaws or not. How would one find this out?
That’s called an exercise for the reader. I will post something so you could follow up the leads in this.
Google took 20 seconds to find https://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure-and-community/kent-country-parks/find-a-kent-country-park/brockhill-country-park/about-brockhill-country-park and https://www.kent.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/204984/Kent-Country-Parks-Strategy-2023-28.pdf
I've had a look on that link and there is absolutely nothing there about any byelaws.
I've also extended my research extensively and KCC doesn't appear to have any byelaws in place for Brockhill Park. There are byelaws for a couple of places in the next town over, but nothing for Brockhill Park.
I challenge you, nay, encourage you, to prove me wrong.
I'll get to sending a SAR to Euro Car Parks and will update this thread when I have a reply.
Additionally, I have a redacted version of the notification letter but I cannot edit my original post with the URL so I will pointless link it here:
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Thank you.
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I am not sure if the land is covered by byelaws or not. How would one find this out?
That’s called an exercise for the reader. I will post something so you could follow up the leads in this.
Google took 20 seconds to find https://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure-and-community/kent-country-parks/find-a-kent-country-park/brockhill-country-park/about-brockhill-country-park and https://www.kent.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/204984/Kent-Country-Parks-Strategy-2023-28.pdf
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I understand about requesting an SAR now:
Sending a Subject Access Request to Euro Car Parks to obtain everything they have, including the original PCN.
Once I've had a reply I'll come back here and post the original PCN.
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Thank you for your reply.
I am not sure if the land is covered by byelaws or not. How would one find this out?
I will request an SAR to Euro Car Parks but what would one do with this information?
Many thanks in advance.
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Is the land covered by byelaws?
If it is, and the driver is not identified, then Euro Car Parks can’t hold the registered keeper liable.
You can use a Subject Access Request to Euro Car Parks to request all the information they hold that is personal to you.
Also, read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ on what to redact and what not.
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That's the thing,I haven't received one. This is the only notice I have!! There is no physical notice plonked on my car. There is no photo of my car. There is no other letter or notification! This is the only thing I've got and it arrived yesterday.
Do I request a copy of the original?
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The reminder is next to useless for us.
Sorry to be blunt!
You need to post up the original PCN.
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Driver parked up at Brockhill County Park in Hythe. Some kind lady gave her paid parking sticker to the driver as it still had a couple of hours left on it, although the ticket did have the lady's reg plate on it. The driver then left the park.
This notice is the first and only notice we've recieved about this matter and it was delivered today!? It also mentions a discounted rate but doesnt mention what that rate is or was.
I feel this is highly unfair and also quite disproportionately aggressive to the situation.
Please may i ask what the best course of action is, and if any details require redacting? Or if you need any further information.
Many thanks.
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