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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: purpleshadow on May 20, 2026, 01:15:56 pm
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https://imgpile.com/p/6dHRA7i
Here the link to the images. the drawing is of from where I come and where I go and blue dots of the signs. My husband luckily only drove into Ingram Road directly and turned around there rather than me going around and getting 2 PCN for it.
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Hello Incadescent, thank you for your reply.
All 4 tickets received today are dated the same.
Also, and I probably "incriminate" myself here but we have been taking our daughter to this school every Saturday for the last 7 years. On Saturday it isn't restricted and both my husband and myself have never noticed these signs.
What I find very unfair is that you can be fined twice within a minute for the same journey that is disproportionate, no?
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You should submit representations against all of the PCNs together that are dated before PCN 1 was served at your address. The basis needs to be that although you now know there is an advance sign, it is usually obscured by high-sided vehicles so you had no warning of the restriction. In addition, you consider that the sign, mounted on the right-hand side of the road in the direction of travel is incorrectly mounted and should be on the left.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/kMK1LyDqV6QbvGFC7
However, with the number of PCNs you mention, you will be testing credibility with the council, because you would be claiming the advance sign was missed on every one of the ocasions you passed the restriction signs. So don't expect the council to roll over.
Do any of the drivers not understand the meaning of the "Flying Motorbike" signs ? They are all over London now and making councils shedloads of money. Here is a link to read: -
https://lbbspending.blogspot.com/2026/05/beware-flying-motorbike-sign.html
Please post one of the PCNs, only redacting name and address.
The out-turn you want to achieve is to pay the 1st PCN at a discount and get the others cancelled.
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Hello,
I received today 4 penalty charge notices from Croydon Council. Three in my name and one in my husband's. My daughter did 4 days of work experience at the school there and because of distance my husband and I dropped her off and picked her up.
I believe there will be more PCN's coming as they have "only" sent 4 tickets for two days.
PCN's dated 19/05/2026
1. 12/05/2026 08:20:32 Springfield Rod, Thornton Heath by Northwood Road, By Northwood Road (mine)
2. 12/05/2026 08:21:24 Ingram Rd, Thornton Heath by Carolina Road, Near Carolina Road (mine)
I entered Springfield Road, did two right turns, dropped my daughter off and left.
3. 13/05/2026 08:18:25 Springfield Rod, Thornton Heath by Northwood Road, By Northwood Road (mine)
4. 13/05/2026 15:33:53 Ingram Rd, Thornton Heath by Carolina Road, Near Carolina Road (husband)
Knowing that there are potentially a lot more tickets coming is really distressing. Potentially 4 tickets per day for 4 days.
On Carolina Road there is a sign saying that no right turns (Mon-Fri) 8:00 - 9:30am 2 - 4pm except authorised vehicles. However, most of the time this sign is obscured because lots of vans and large vehicles park on the right hand side and you have to drive in the middle of the road so can't see that sign. There is another sign once you turned into the road but by then I guess it is too late?
On entering Springfield Road you are at a roundabout but there is a sign pointing straight ahead and then one near you but on other side of road.
Would I have chance appealing these tickets, I mean this is almost extortion. Would I be able to claim continuous contravention or procedural unfairness or something? It seems totally disproportionate to the infraction?
Let me know if you want any further details. Would really hope for some advise on this.
Many thanks