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Title: Re: PCN - 16 -from Brent Council (Swinderby road) – confusing signage on Swinderby Rd (permit vs pay-by-phone)
Post by: goel_mansi on May 10, 2026, 12:51:06 am
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zEHAklW9012qVwmFv3jZROQEkzPwRmNf
Title: Re: PCN - 16 -from Brent Council (Swinderby road) – confusing signage on Swinderby Rd (permit vs pay-by-phone)
Post by: goel_mansi on May 10, 2026, 12:30:08 am
Trying to share the google drive images- Hope you can see them

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zEHAklW9012qVwmFv3jZROQEkzPwRmNf

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AddfuqvqO8X3YuD2sSSOnHQ6AXfEbWOa/view?usp=drivesdk

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Title: Re: PCN - 16 -from Brent Council (Swinderby road) – confusing signage on Swinderby Rd (permit vs pay-by-phone)
Post by: goel_mansi on May 10, 2026, 12:06:03 am
Hi

Thank you so much for the prompt response- I am referring to the sign similar to the below on the same road.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/v6h96rMQLr8quqZF6

I am trying to figure out a way to upload all the pictures and will so so asap.

Thanks
Title: Re: PCN - 16 -from Brent Council (Swinderby road) – confusing signage on Swindon Rd (permit vs pay-by-phone)
Post by: Incandescent on May 09, 2026, 11:50:21 pm
Please post the PCN, all sides. If it was served at roadside, there is no need to redact anything as your name and address will not be on it.

Please say where exactly you parked in the view given by your GSV link. I attach a GSV link, (2024) at the end of the street telling us the street is in CPZ "C", giving the times of the yellow line restrictions. In CPZs parking bays must have their own signs.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1oDXENdmxX6i1fRd8

If you are referring to the sign here: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZmdUBmyA6up8t48t9
That is just the sign for that particular bay, not for bays in the whole street, although to be fair they all appear the same from a quick glance at GSV.
Title: PCN - 16 -from Brent Council (Swinderby road) – confusing signage on Swinderby Rd (permit vs pay-by-phone)
Post by: goel_mansi on May 09, 2026, 11:31:59 pm
Hi team

I’d appreciate some advice regarding a PCN I’ve recently received on Swinderby Road (Brent Council), as I believe the signage is unclear and potentially misleading.
• At both the start and end of the road, there are signs indicating “permit holders only”.
• However, I also noticed signage mentioning “pay at meter / pay by phone” (RingGo), although this is not consistently displayed throughout the entire road.
• In some sections of the road, there is no clear indication that payment is allowed, while in others it appears permitted.

Based on this, I assumed the whole road allowed pay-by-phone parking, and I parked accordingly.
• I paid using the RingGo app (as I have done multiple times before on this road without issue).
• Despite this, I have now received a PCN.

My concern is that:
• The signage is inconsistent across the road, and
• It is not clear where permit-only restrictions apply vs where pay-by-phone is valid

Given that I did make payment in good faith and relied on previous experience of parking on this road, I feel the situation is quite confusing.

Could you please advise:(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HGFu5ORQhPyA1Fwim5wk_x9wd0XT8GDV/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vUeappiChLH16KxhauX6BP-m-Q17Zoit/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c-WoLG7-ORAktQI-76zRkhd4zHejErDO/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eFNJu8qvmDIJrK4uYiumnRLDvUQMg7rp/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QEHOZBO2eJmi6TeIqw5wdRK5kWH6JOLy/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AddfuqvqO8X3YuD2sSSOnHQ6AXfEbWOa/view?usp=drivesdk)
• Whether this is a valid ground for appeal (unclear/inconsistent signage)?
• Whether Brent Council is required to ensure clear and consistent signage along the entire stretch?
• If anyone has had a similar experience with this location?

Happy to share photos of the signage and the PCN if helpful.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/c1ZTc33Ljse18GxB9


Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks & Regards
Mansi(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kmwHDfCxSHL_qQQsjoDFriU1AhA4FP1G/view?usp=)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/11MCCe-Qx2RJ64xNQVsbmmN4FAxlOFG_7/view?usp=drivesdk)(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sH03NrB2ZPkckONguMUs51tqMMpUJN1m/view?usp=drivesdk)