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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Ray236 on May 03, 2026, 09:19:46 pm
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hi is there any update on this please?
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639
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Thanks, that’s really helpful. I did notice the signs in the PCN images, but I agree they look unusually high, and I honestly don’t recall seeing them when driving through. If they’re mounted higher than typical, that does make me question whether they’re sufficiently visible to drivers in real conditions.
That’s interesting about the blue signs and camera signage not being required as well — I hadn’t considered that. Do you think it’s worth pursuing an appeal on the basis that the overall signage (especially the height/placement) isn’t adequate, even if this specific point hasn’t really been tested at London Tribunals yet? Or would I need stronger grounds alongside that?
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You can see the signs in the first photo on your PCN. A look on GSV shows them as absurdly high, something we are increasingly seeing in London, but so far, I don't think this height issue has been tested at London Tribunals. The signs could be mounted lower, because the blue signs are not traffic signs at all, and there is no need for a camera sign either.
However, there are advance warning signs: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WNaPCnL2RsoqhW9n7
and
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WbUHL6hBFZeevTzi9
This makes any representations more difficult, because these strongly support the test of "adequacy"
Are you aware of the meaning of these "flying motorbike" signs ?
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https://ibb.co/zHCkcGwg
Hi everyone, I’ve just received a Penalty Charge Notice from Redbridge Council for allegedly entering a pedestrian zone (code 53J) on Charter Avenue on 24/04/2026 at around 16:04. The notice says it was captured by a roadside camera, and the fine is £160 (£80 if paid within 14 days). I don’t recall seeing any clear signage at the time, so I’m wondering if I may have grounds to appeal. Has anyone dealt with something similar in this area or successfully challenged a PCN like this? Any advice on what to check or how to approach an appeal would be really appreciated.