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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Fp12345 on April 28, 2026, 07:35:45 pm
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This is hopeless for them if you are sure there was no sign by that short row of bays. The CEO has taken a pic of the sign across the road so almost certainly there wasn't.
I've attached the traffic order map that shows two rows of bay bays separated by double yellow lines on that side.
All you need to say:
The contravention did not occur as my car was in an unrestricted parking bay. There was no parking sign for this row of bays.
As the PCN has been issued in error I look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation.
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Thank you for your reply
Yes to both of your questions
Im going to give it a go and appeal and see what happens
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So it looks from your photos that you were parked here: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/crY2s2DdQGmDrDoe8
and there is a sign on the side that you parked, but the cretins have put it by the bay adjacent to the gate across the street.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/n8nXCSfHoLQoq5A76
This bay is separated from yours by the double-yellow lines. This means the bay you parked in is in a separate set of bays that require their own sign, but as you say, there is no sign.
So you should submit representations stating that the bay you parked in was one of a group of (Nn), but had no sign with the bay restrictions. With no sign, this means the bays are uncontrolled and the PCN is therefore void, so you request it is cancelled forthwith.
The problem you will have is that Redbridge, being greedy for your money, will just send you a Fob-Off letter, thus forcing you to either pay the discount, or wait for the Notice to Owner and submit a formal representation this time. The discount is lost at the NtO stage, although it is likely Redbridge would re-offer it when they reject your formal reps. Really the only way to get a result is to take them to London Tribunals and risk the full PCN penalty. Councils know people are reluctant to do this, so they ruthlessly game the system to "encourage" payment.
So are you the owner with your name and address on the V5C for the car, and is the V5C address up-to-date ?
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Sorry dont know how to upload pic
PCN number :AF14013986
VRN ST14THK
REDBRIDGE COUNCIL
Thank you
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Post the PCN, or the PCN number and vehicle VRM.
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I received a PCN from Redbridge council for the reason
“Parked without payment of parking charge”
However there was no signs that the bay I parked in was a pay and display bay.
On the other side of the road they had pay and display bays with a sign but nothing to indicate where I parked was a pay and display bay. The warden took a picture of the sign on the other side of the road as evidence