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Title: Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit Bay - Query about permitted times
Post by: bagold on April 27, 2026, 02:54:17 pm
Really appreciate this.

About ten families, every six weeks, cook and make food packages for the women's shelter (https://www.maryleboneproject.org.uk/). Each family makes about 40 packages of food to be distributed one per person at the shelter. So this results in about 15 or  bags full of food containers. This week I also had a couple of bags of clothing.

I am 63 years old and can only carry two bags at a time. So I guess about eight trips between the car and hostel.
Title: Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit Bay - Query about permitted times
Post by: tincombe on April 27, 2026, 02:47:36 pm
If you give us some idea of the load and how many journeys to/from the car which you made then we could perhaps draft something for you. But you need to be more specific if you're to melt the heart of a council.
Title: Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit Bay - Query about permitted times
Post by: bagold on April 27, 2026, 10:19:20 am
Thank you for your reply.

I was parked for about half an hour. Like I said once I saw Monday-Friday, I was a bit more relaxed about delivering rather than rushing to unload the car as soon as possible. I got the ticket while I was signing the donation form at the shelter. Again if I thought I was parked illegally I could have made the shelter rush this instead of waiting my turn to see the receptionist. If required I can certainly get proof from the shelter that I was making food donation.

So given this information should I appeal or just pay up?
Title: Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit Bay - Query about permitted times
Post by: tincombe on April 27, 2026, 09:49:25 am
Controlled Parking Zones refer to waiting restrictions on yellow lines and have nothing to do with parking places, which(subject to seeing their photos) is where you were.

Parking places are controlled by upright traffic signs whose times may or may not align with CPZ hours.

In your case there might be an exemption to the parking restriction in respect of delivering, so pl post this detail e.g. what type of loads, for how long were you parked, how many trips to/from your delivery destination were made, how far was this from where you parked, had you previous experience of doing this etc?
Title: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit Bay - Query about permitted times
Post by: bagold on April 27, 2026, 09:37:04 am
Two days ago on Saturday at 18:33 I received a Penalty Charge Notice from City of Westminster. I was delivering donated food from friends and family to the women's hostel. I saw the Controlled Zone sign saying Monday-Friday 8:30am-6:30pm so I became relaxed about parking my car there. But I didn't realise there was another sign about Parking Permit Monday-Saturday 8:30am-10pm.

Should I just pay up or do I have any grounds to appeal? I honestly just saw the Controlled Zone sign and assumed parking restrictions don't apply on a Saturday.

The amount is £80 if I pay up quickly or else double.

I would appreciate any advice. Thank you.

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