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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: beansprout on April 24, 2026, 05:13:03 pm

Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: tincombe on April 25, 2026, 12:16:41 pm
Then IMO you should include with your reps against the PCN the following:

The authority should note that you will be moving to Canada on *** for an indeterminate period. All correspondence initiated after ** May* to the following address:

Your name
*****
CANADA

They would be obliged to comply with this instruction which would be enough to put them off IMO if accompanied by reps which focus on your account i.e. being clear for ULEZ. If they did not, then IMO this would be improper.

* - this date should count back two working days for service. For example, if you were to move on Mon. 18 May then the effective date would be Thur. 14th May(Sat and Sun are excluded in the calculation).
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: beansprout on April 25, 2026, 11:53:56 am
The checker says charge is applicable for Bristol and Birmingham.


I’m going to Canada for 5 months in two weeks time.


I should be able to get the PCN numbers as they are issued by calling or emailing.
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: tincombe on April 25, 2026, 11:38:22 am
What answer do you get with this: https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/streets-travel/bristols-caz/charges-and-vehicle-checker

Pl post the PCN.

When will you be moving to Canada and for how long?
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: beansprout on April 25, 2026, 11:12:09 am
I’ve just called the clean air zone team and they said they would open a ticket and they would be in touch if they need more evidence or information. Supposedly even if the log book says 0.09 it could still be exempt? All very confusing
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: beansprout on April 25, 2026, 10:38:32 am
It’s a 2002 Toyota Yaris Verso petrol that I bought as part of the scrappage scheme to become exempt from ULEZ (and is definitely ULEZ exempt in the TFL database)

From my understanding exemption is generally based on Euro 4 standard, but that didn’t exist before 2006, but they manually whitelist some older vehicles in their database.

My V5C lists emissions that seem to be slightly higher than the euro 4 standard: CO 1.02, HC 0.12, NOx 0.09

The important value being NOx, the euro 4 standard being 0.08 I think? So on that basis it should not even be ulez compliant?

Very confusing, and maybe at least a reasonable basis for appeal?
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: Innocentman on April 24, 2026, 11:01:49 pm
What vehicle? CAZ and ULEZ should be the same.

They are.

When you enter your reg number into Bristol's CAZ checker, what does it come back with?

Ditto London's ULEZ.
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: RichardW on April 24, 2026, 08:48:44 pm
What vehicle? CAZ and ULEZ should be the same. Have you put on or removed a cherished plate recently?
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: beansprout on April 24, 2026, 08:12:50 pm
If you're moving to Canada, I think you can safely ignore them because they cannot enforce in Canada

Only temporarily..
Title: Re: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: Incandescent on April 24, 2026, 08:08:21 pm
If you're moving to Canada, I think you can safely ignore them because they cannot enforce in Canada
Title: A month of driving in the Bristol CAZ - just received first PCN (turns I'm ULEZ compliant but not CAZ)
Post by: beansprout on April 24, 2026, 05:13:03 pm
Wow, looks like I really screwed up. Assumed ULEZ compliant meant CAZ compliant.

I'm guessing I have dozens of unpaid CAZ days.

Would really appreciate some help?

Is the course of action:
1. pay any days still payable
2. appeal based on not realising vehicle was non-compliant, and only being made aware of the non-compliance a month after first entering the CAZ.

Do I call them?

Do I have to appeal to each PCN individually as they come through? My mail goes to a family address and they're about to go on holiday.. and I'm about to move to Canada. Having PCNs trickling in for the next month that I need to deal with is going to be an absolute nightmare!

Cheers..