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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Mortimer on April 19, 2026, 10:20:50 pm
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Yeah I know. I don't miss living in the London boroughs. Whenever I have to go that way, apart from my normal commute into New Malden from the south of Greater London, it feels worse every time.
Anyway, I have been going through the London Tribunal decision linked by Hippocrates.
Do we know if there was any more to the original appeal, because that looks like a decision that could have been a throw away decision, made simply because Hounslow representation did not show up.
Or is the decision really that strong?
I cannot for example find where in LLA&Tfl Act 2003 it says that a PCN must "...explain that, if no representations are made and, if payment of the penalty charge has not been made, before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the PCN, then an increased charge may be payable."
The text in bold only appears in the Act in Schedule 1, 5(2)(a) which covers charge certificates. PART 2 4( 8 ), does not appear to require any statements in the PCN regarding what happens if representations are not made. It only requires in (v) that it state that if not paid, then an increased charge may be payable, which I think it does.
If I can find any holes I would point out that (viii) requires that the PCN state that person on whom a notice is served may be entitled to make representations under Paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 to this Act. The PCN does not mention any part of the Act, other than to include the title of the Act under the heading of the PCN. I do not think this is strong.
I am happy to suggest making representations on the basis of the decision as published, if nothing else it delays things a bit. Wondering if something more concrete can be included though.
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What silly signage!!
The prohibition signs are placed just before a junction. They are 150m AFTER the preceding junction, and 200m into a side road off a main road.
Surely anyone in their right mind would have put the signs just after the preceding junction so people who should not be preceding any further actually have an alternative direction to take.
But they wouldn't make any penalty money for the council if they did. Councils have been given a Magic Money Tree and exploit it as much as possible.
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What silly signage!!
The prohibition signs are placed just before a junction. They are 150m AFTER the preceding junction, and 200m into a side road off a main road.
Surely anyone in their right mind would have put the signs just after the preceding junction so people who should not be preceding any further actually have an alternative direction to take.
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Thanks Hippocrates.
I'll take a look at that later and see what I can come up with.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mpB3obxgDkbzTrC_YbGNPC7K3vhqqKIt/view
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A registered keeper has received the following from LBoHounslow.
Date of notice : 07/04/2026
The PCN was delivered on Thursday : 16/04/2026
RK was abroad and opened : 17/04/2026
Long time since I have been involved with a Civil PCN, since moving out of London area. So not up to speed on them.
Are they fairly bulletproof now, or can they still be fought?
(https://i.ibb.co/6VTX7Pg/PCN-Original-1.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q34rFvKT/PCN-Original-2.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/JRGNHNq3/PCN-Original-3.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDJSH3SQ/PCN-Original-4.png)