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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: jethy on March 26, 2026, 01:10:17 pm

Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: andy_foster on March 27, 2026, 12:44:22 pm
For the avoidance of doubt, the date we are looking for is the date after the DocRef. No. at the bottom of page 2 of your V5C (current design V5Cs) It does not actually say "DocRef Date", it says "DocRef. No. " followed by the DocRef. No., followed by 3 pairs of digits, in the form DD MM YY (which is clearly a date code). If your V5C is the older style, it might be elsewhere, but generally trivial to find (assuming that you have the V5C because you are the Registered Keeper).
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: ManxTom on March 27, 2026, 12:34:19 pm

... The purported offence took place on 06/03/26.  However I only received the NIP on 24/03/26, which I have evidence of as the letter can be seen in the postmans hand on my door camera...

Is the envelope containing the NIP clearly identifiable on the images from your door camera?
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: NewJudge on March 26, 2026, 05:41:13 pm
How long has the car been registered in your name at your current address, then?

That said, with an offence date of 6/3 (a Friday) and the notice produced the following Tuesday, it seems unlikely the police had any problems with your address. If that is the case, the choice you have is as I explained in my earlier post.
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: Gilan02 on March 26, 2026, 04:59:29 pm
What document are you looking for the docfef, you should be looking on your V5C.
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: jethy on March 26, 2026, 03:32:40 pm
newjudge asked

Also, what is the “docref” date shown (foot of page 2, I think)?

Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: Southpaw82 on March 26, 2026, 03:17:02 pm
I cant see any docref date on any page. 
On any page of what document?
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: jethy on March 26, 2026, 02:36:32 pm
HI

Yes the name and address is correct.

I cant see any docref date on any page. 

It was my wife driving at the time.

Thanks

J
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: NewJudge on March 26, 2026, 02:30:58 pm
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle (i.e. do you hold the V5C). and are your details on it completely correct? Also, what is the “docref” date shown (foot of page 2, I think)?

If none of that provides a reason for the late service of the NIP, you will have to decline any out of court offer the police may make (of a course or fixed penalty) and plead not guilty in court.

There the police will only have to prove the date of posting (probably the date of issue, 11th March) and it is presumed served on you two working days later (13th March). Your job will be to convince the court (on the balance of probabilities) that it was delivered after 20th March.

The cost of failure is high. If convicted you will receive a fine of half a week’s net income, a surcharge of 40% of that fine and costs of around £650.

Whatever you do about the speeding offence, you must respond to the “request for driver’s details” within the 28 days allowed. Failure to do so will see you commit a more serious offence which carries six points.
Title: Re: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: DrSatan on March 26, 2026, 02:25:16 pm
Are you the registered keeper of the car, and does the V5C have your correct address details on it?
Title: Avon and Somerset NIP Speeding in temporary 50mph speed limit on motorway
Post by: jethy on March 26, 2026, 01:10:17 pm
Hello

I received a NIP for travelling at 57mph in a temporary 50mph speed restriction on the motorway.

The purported offence took place on 06/03/26.  However I only received the NIP on 24/03/26, which I have evidence of as the letter can be seen in the postmans hand on my door camera.

Do I have an grounds for the letter being outside of the 14 days of issue? 

Here are links to the NIP Images:

https://i.ibb.co/nNWMcMj4/IMG-8133-copy.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Kc3R1Nh3/IMG-8134-copy.jpg

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks