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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Billybon8843 on March 19, 2026, 05:31:22 pm

Title: Re: Chichester DC - PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: RichardW on March 20, 2026, 07:48:23 am

Look carefully, the sign on the other side of the road they have pointed to actually conveys a different restriction!  Your side is Mon-Sat 8-6 and the other is Mon-Fri 8-6.  Presume you were parked close to the sign on your side?  It looks like the lines have been extended at some point, and the extension was poor in 2024 on StreetView - are you able to get a photo in day light of the current state of the lines?

Title: Re: Chichester DC - PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: Billybon8843 on March 19, 2026, 08:03:26 pm

I find their reason to reject my appeal a case to cancel anyway as there were using a near 2 year old Google street view, when the sign isn’t even there now!

Title: Re: Chichester DC - PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: Incandescent on March 19, 2026, 07:41:12 pm

Some real tosh in their reply. A sign on the opposite side of the road does not apply to both sides. They are either thick and stupid or being mendacious, the latter, methinks.

Title: Re: Chichester DC - PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: Billybon8843 on March 19, 2026, 06:48:21 pm

Done - thank you

Title: Re: PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: catnip on March 19, 2026, 05:39:29 pm

Please have a look at this post and let us see the PCN and confirm the location:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

Title: Chichester DC - PCN given - council rejected and used old street view
Post by: Billybon8843 on March 19, 2026, 05:31:22 pm

Hi all, I’d appreciate some advice on whether I have grounds to take this to adjudication.

Background:
   •   Location: Ashfield Road, Midhurst
   •   Contravention: Parked on single yellow line during restricted hours
   •   Informal challenge submitted and rejected

Council - Chichester District Council
Key issue: signage

The restriction relies on a nearby sign which I believe is not compliant:
   • Mounted unusually low (approx. 3ft on a wall)
   • Heavily faded – symbol is almost completely worn
   • Partially obscured by moss/vegetation
   • Only legible text is: “Mon–Sat 8am–6pm”
   • At night (when I parked) it was very difficult to see

With the symbol illegible, the sign is ambiguous and doesn’t clearly convey the restriction.

Council rejection – incorrect evidence
   • Council said there is an additional sign opposite my vehicle
   • They provided a photo, but it appears to be from Google Maps (dated June 2024)
   • That sign is no longer there and was not present at the time (Feb 2026)
   • I have photos from the same position confirming its absence

So their decision appears to rely on outdated evidence.

Legal angle (as I understand it):
   • Restrictions must be clearly conveyed (TSRGD 2016 / TMA 2004 guidance)
   • Authorities shouldn’t enforce where signage is missing, unclear or misleading
   •   In this case:
   •   Sign is faded/obscured
   •   Meaning is unclear
   •   Supporting signage claimed by council does not exist

Do I have a case to get the PCN cancelled? I’m planning on doing a second appeal very soon.

Pictures
https://storage.to/c/GnNHpBQLM