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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Alz0r on March 13, 2026, 05:32:33 pm

Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on April 30, 2026, 03:35:06 pm: Hi all - just had a response from the council - they cancelled the PCN.

Thank you for the assistance it is very much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: tincombe on March 19, 2026, 07:21:00 am: Wait pl.

its in my company name so they sent the NTO to my v5 address

Is the NTO addressed to you by name?

Only the person or entity named may make reps.

There are various scenarios which spring to mind, but pl take this one step at a time because, for example, even if it's in a company's name and you own the company then any reps must be from the company, but of course you would be the author.
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 19, 2026, 07:08:43 am: Thank you will do! I'll report back
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: stamfordman on March 18, 2026, 11:25:56 pm: You must include the job sheet with the representation.

Start it off:

I am challenging the PCN because I was engaged in the exempt activity of unloading my equipment to a nearby property.
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 18, 2026, 09:18:28 pm: its in my company name so they sent the NTO to my v5 address
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: tincombe on March 18, 2026, 08:21:50 pm: You are the registered keeper of the van and the NTO is addressed to you?
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 18, 2026, 05:58:26 pm: Thank you :)

I was just going to say -

"I dispute the contravention of being parked in a restricted street as I was in the process of unloading my equipment to a nearby property. I was unable to unload near the property as all the bays nearby are for residents only, so I had to unload at the end of the bays on double yellow lines. There were no loading restrictions in force and given how long it takes to carry my equipment to the property, press the buzzer, wait to be let in, carry everything to the top floor, then walk back again, it's apparent the CEO didn't witness this process. There was also no ticket on my windscreen when I returned to the vehicle hence this is my first chance to reply to your PCN".

I can also provide a job sheet proving I was working at the address in question.

Thanks for any critique!
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: stamfordman on March 14, 2026, 04:21:30 pm: Post a draft here first.
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 14, 2026, 07:35:56 am: OK thank you, will do :)
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Incandescent on March 13, 2026, 08:07:47 pm: Yellow lines don't have to be in perfect condition, and those are in better condition than a lot we see on here. An adjudicator would determine they convey the restriction clearly enough.

You should win on the loading exemption, but you must describe what was involved in the loading that allowed a CEO to turn up, produce a PCN, stick it onto your van windscreen and walk on without you ever seeing him.

They may come back with some tosh, like "loading must be attended at all time"; it doesn't. Post up their response when you get it.
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 13, 2026, 05:57:39 pm: Would it be worth asking to see the CEO's ticket to find out the observation time? Also does the ropey state of the yellow paint have any bearing?
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: stamfordman on March 13, 2026, 05:55:49 pm: You are allowed time to complete loading and each case turns on the situation - I'm checking you did and then went back to van rather start on job!
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 13, 2026, 05:53:22 pm: Thanks for the reply.

Yeh not sure on the observation period, it's usually 5 minutes from previous tickets!

The thing is that's not enough time for me to carry equipment to the house (half way down the street, press the buzzer, wait to be let in, climb all the stairs etc etc and get back to the van).
Title: Re: Plymouth PCN
Post by: stamfordman on March 13, 2026, 05:47:24 pm: How long were you away from the van. As you know, you have to complete loading/unloading in time necessary and then move the vehicle.

As you don't have the PCN, we don't know what observation time if any was on it.
Title: Plymouth PCN
Post by: Alz0r on March 13, 2026, 05:32:33 pm: Hi All,

My work van got a parking ticket without my knowledge, I received a Notice to Owner today.

There was no ticket on the van when I got back to it (although there is a picture of it on my windscreen on the council's evidence). Someone must have picked it up or it blew away, not sure.

I was parked at the end of a row of residence bays on double yellow lines. I knew I couldn't park in the resident bays so I had to unload my van from the double yellow lines instead. I was working in the top flat and had to carry heavy equipment up to complete a job.

There were no loading restrictions on the double yellows and they were also not painted on very well.

I've included all the evidence below, I'm sure the circumstances above should get me off but any other assistance or opinion is appreciated :)

https://ibb.co/wry057PD
https://ibb.co/Ld7DRV3k
https://ibb.co/20PvYYwL

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@50.363381,-4.14969,255.52h,-39.47p,1z,0aMeS-DKAME9x5U2vXZg5w