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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: ldabbs on March 12, 2026, 04:58:00 pm

Title: Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: Hippocrates on March 16, 2026, 10:44:32 pm

And screenshot the website page re payment dates and how much.

Title: Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: stamfordman on March 16, 2026, 07:24:54 pm

Post a draft here.

Title: Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: ldabbs on March 16, 2026, 02:06:35 pm

Thanks very much for the replies. Will try challenging it in this way

Title: Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: Incandescent on March 12, 2026, 07:33:21 pm

+1
Too many people walk away from the car when using a PbP app to pay for their parking, so a CEO turns up, sees no parking session on his HH terminal so serves a PCN. Meanwhile the session is set-up whist he's doing this. From what you have said you have a reasonable hope of success at London Tribunals.I say this because all London councils are now getting such huge revenues for parking penalties, (like over £700 million !!), they now just refuse ALL reps knowing most people, (like >95%), then just cough-up not knowing the law and fearful they'll get walloped for undreds of pound. Also  not everybody knows that there is this forum to get advice from. So the only place you'll get a reasonably unbiased judgement on your case is London Tribunals.

Looking at your timings, I think you have a reasonable case, but there is no guarantee you'll win at LT. Best thing to do now is to submit representations on the basis that you were engaged in paying to park when the CEO served the PCN. State that you had to move away from the car to get a good signal and say that the fact that the parking commenced only one minute after the PCN was served shows that you were engaged in making the payment at the time the CEO served the PCN.

Title: Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: stamfordman on March 12, 2026, 05:10:06 pm

Yers but where were you when you made payment. Walking away from the car often means we see this situation.

Title: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
Post by: ldabbs on March 12, 2026, 04:58:00 pm

Hello,
I received a birthday present of a PCN on my car in the notorious London Borough of Lambeth yesterday. £160, £80 if I pay in 14 days.

I'd like to challenge it as I paid for parking from 3 mins after the vehicle was first observed.

Context:
There is a CPZ operating 12-2pm Monday to Friday, this happened on Wednesday 11th March within this time, so the CPZ was operational and I was parked where they say I was.

My issue is the timings and what is a reasonable amount of time to navigate an online payment system and poor phone reception locally to get the digital parking session paid for and live.

The PCN states car initially observed in pay and display bay at 12.19pm and PCN was then issued at 12.21pm, meanwhile I have a receipt from Pay By Phone showing I paid for parking that went through and started at 12.22pm.

I've linked a google drive with the parking receipt.

Is it worth me challenging?

Many thanks,
Liane

Google Drive link to paid parking receipt (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1imXlgSq9U0e7iQgdPkB9c0_3s4Wg86JN/view?usp=drive_link)