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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Movieman9000 on November 24, 2023, 03:12:38 pm
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The TMO is The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (Banned Turn) (Reede Road) Experimental Order 2022 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1NH3MW_JS3gT77KchOCSlo0hcL0XXchnp), which has now expired but it was in force at the material time (since replaced by The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (Banned Turn) (Reede Road) Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1nK_U9H8wcs1v6pfITvv8LAp52oSAeaQ1)).
This might be one for the strategy of last resort, described here (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581), but it's dependent on you having some meaningful mitigation and some relevant evidence to put to them.
Another issue is that at the tribunal, they might put the wrong traffic order in the evidence pack, we've seen this a lot recently when a PCN is issued close to the cut-over date.
thanks for the reply, ahhhh the double or quits casino if I go to tribunal hhmmm tempting I'll have to have a think about it :)
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The TMO is The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (Banned Turn) (Reede Road) Experimental Order 2022 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1NH3MW_JS3gT77KchOCSlo0hcL0XXchnp), which has now expired but it was in force at the material time (since replaced by The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (Banned Turn) (Reede Road) Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1nK_U9H8wcs1v6pfITvv8LAp52oSAeaQ1)).
This might be one for the strategy of last resort, described here (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581), but it's dependent on you having some meaningful mitigation and some relevant evidence to put to them.
Another issue is that at the tribunal, they might put the wrong traffic order in the evidence pack, we've seen this a lot recently when a PCN is issued close to the cut-over date.
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This is a really nice little earner for the council, and all legal too ! GSV is too out-of-date to show the NRT sign, but your photos show it is clear enough. I suppose when everybody in Barking and Dagenham has received a PCN here the revenue will dry up.
I have to say that I can't think of a strong appeal argument here, other than the YBJ markings may cause confusion. In fact, I think that argument has already been presented and the appellant lost.
Have you done a search on the London Tribunals case register yet to see what adjudicators have said ?
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Hi guys
yep it seems like another Reede road in Dagenham, no right turn at LIDL
https://parkingpayments.lbbd.gov.uk/3sc/
PCN - BZ99917918
number plate - EJ59AOE
Front and back pages of notice
1st page (https://i.ibb.co/8B68wxY/1700837500745-9fbd0ddf-f31b-48b5-9eec-7a4cbbaa535d-1.jpg)
2nd page (https://i.ibb.co/GQ3JGm5/1700837500745-9fbd0ddf-f31b-48b5-9eec-7a4cbbaa535d-2.jpg)
3rd page (https://i.ibb.co/Wgj1C9v/1700837500745-9fbd0ddf-f31b-48b5-9eec-7a4cbbaa535d-3.jpg)
4th page (https://i.ibb.co/cbVd7tz/1700837500745-9fbd0ddf-f31b-48b5-9eec-7a4cbbaa535d-4.jpg)
Signage
zoomed in sign (https://i.ibb.co/rpnTg56/IMG-20231124-132558.jpg)
wider angle (https://i.ibb.co/XF3CWG4/IMG-20231124-150016.jpg)
Google Street view (https://maps.app.goo.gl/nVxQ5vyy4i4Vj3e38)
Notes
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lbbd-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn-(no-right-turn)-reede-road/msg1175/
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4068166
FOI request as at November 2023
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/cy/request/pcns_issued_at_reede_road
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/cy/request/1044696/response/2474110/attach/html/2/Response%20all%20information%20to%20be%20supplied.pdf.html
12,920 issued so far at £65 per PCN that's £839,800