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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: prosodyspeaks on March 11, 2026, 06:45:21 pm
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I would try PCN not fixed as not under wiper as lead challenge and then add something on signage but the upright sign was there to be seen - the diagonal bays though can through you off.
Nothing to lose as you have an NTO and you may well recover the discount at least owing to not getting the windscreen PCN.
Post a draft here first.
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Post a photo of the sign, or a GSV link to the exact location. The fact there is a sign is against you, but the worn carriageway markings support your case about what bays the sign applied to.
oops, i got the gsv link wrong in op, its here https://maps.app.goo.gl/hyLGkMoqwcYPAqk78
i was parked where the ambulance is in the current streetview images
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Post a photo of the sign, or a GSV link to the exact location. The fact there is a sign is against you, but the worn carriageway markings support your case about what bays the sign applied to.
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Have you seen the council's photos which IMO clearly show a PCN affixed to your windscreen?
i had not until stamford posted them. how do i get them myself?!
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The PCN was served but you didn't have your wipers parked. But it looks like it was not tucked under the wiper so may be deemed not fixed.
thanks!
i hadnt noticed the yellow notice in the image. it certainly was not there when i next used the vehicle (PCN says incident occurred 2/2/26, date of notice is 5/3/26) and are not visible in the two images on the pcn in mail - how did you get more images?!
is the notice invalid if there was no notice attached to vehicle, or done badly enough that it blew away? does this stand if - as is the case - we are still given 28 days from receipt of the mail?
re the bay designation i am going by what the pcn says - i have no knowledge of whether it's a generic disabled bay, or if it's specifically for a particular resident in a particular house.
pcn says:
'Contravention: 40, Parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without clearly displaying a valid disabled person's badge'
thanks again for your time
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As I noted it looks like the PCN is not under the wiper but between arm and wiper and could have blown away. Cases are won where PCBs are not served with more care.
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'No physical notice was attached to the vehicle'.
Have you seen the council's photos which IMO clearly show a PCN affixed to your windscreen?
In any event, you have to make reps no later than 5 April.
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The PCN was served but you didn't have your wipers parked. But it looks like it was not tucked under the wiper so may be deemed not fixed.
You say designated bay but it's not allocated to one person I think - just a general disabled bay sign?
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Hi, thanks for any help
It looks like i accidentally parked in a disabled bay on a public road. Brent council want £160, rising to £240 after 28 days. (I have until 2nd april to pay or make representations.)
It is a genuine accident (fwiw i have very little respect for people who wilfully park in disabled bays - i would never do so on purpose) so I'm hoping the poor markings or perhaps a procedural oddity /malformed notice might be a valid reason for appeal?
No physical notice was attached to the vehicle - i received in the mail only.
The bay is on the street outside a house with parking at an an angle to the road.
There is a sign on a post outside the house, as well as markings on the road in front of the bay.
The markings on the road are severely faded (see image) and i genuinely did not see them when i parked at night. They are completely invisible (or out of shot?) in the images provided with the PCN.
Due to the angle of the bays i thought the sign related to the next bay along rather than the one i parked in.
see images (neither of the cars in the images are mine, i parked in the same bay as the grey aldi
photos of the scene the day after gettting pcn
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PWs7LTALr7UjTjHw9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mafMWugMGgZDQk4H9
photo of notice received in mail (i think i removed all pii but please tell me if i missed something!)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KDBGvKhP7ZKdbBf8A
i just saw the guide says not to obscure the pcn number or reg, but i already did, so here they are:
PCN: BT27904724
REG: LN10 FDG
Google maps. note the on-street 'DIABLED' marking is completely invisible in street-view
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MhSANqVDF2Mg92xD8
ps i tried inserting images but they do not render so i've shared links to public google photos instead.