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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: X10 on March 09, 2026, 01:10:39 am
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Thanks @stamfordman. (It was me that started the thread you linked, it seemed split as to which was right - 08:40 or 08:41, so I put the challenge in)
Yes I am the keeper and the logbook is up to date.
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That's one of the most ridiculous things we've seen - that time to print and serve is an extra minute....
You are right - the PCN could not have been issued until its time stated 08:41.
We had a recent discussion revisiting this.
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/what-is-the-legalenforceable-timing-for-the-10-minute-grace-period-10th-minute-o/
Are you the keeper and is the logbook up to date with correct address.
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Hi All, hoping you can help.
I received a PCN (image below) for parking as per the topic.
Parking at this car park starts at 08:00, I 'purchased' a free 30 minute ticket at 00:36 (as the ticket does not start until 08:00, so expiry on ticket is 08:30).
The PCN states "Observed From 08:36 to 08:40" and the issuing time of the ticket was "Time: 08:40"
Based on my query and the answers in this thread in the Fire Pit (https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/what-is-the-legalenforceable-timing-for-the-10-minute-grace-period-10th-minute-o/ (https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/what-is-the-legalenforceable-timing-for-the-10-minute-grace-period-10th-minute-o/)) I challenged the PCN on the basis that it was issued 1 minute too early but it was rejected (second & third images below).
Just wondered if this is worth pursuing with a formal challenge etc.?
Thank you all!
PCN:
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/nhAcGOT_xl.jpg)
Challenge Rejection:
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/3rIGquu_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/j8vPCdo_xl.jpg)