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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: mewmew on March 06, 2026, 09:37:55 pm
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Thank you for your helpful replies.
If I remember correctly I reported the V5C update online. I even remember calling the police to ask about any penalties the day I reported it but unfortunately they did not know anything.
I just find it so dishonest that they never sent a reminder or something only for me to find out 6 months later that in 5 days I will have someone visiting my house!
So do you suggest I pay the whole amount (£115 + £75) and also apply with Out-of-Time Witness Statement that I updated my V5C promptly on moving house ?
If the declaration gets accepted and get me to the original PCN stage, do I then get a refund for the extra charges?
Thanks a lot in advance for the support
Mike
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OK, so the PCN date is 22nd Sept 2025. The last V5C update is 8th October 2025. Can you remember how you reported the V5C update; was it online or did you send off the relevant V5C section by post ?
I think the two dates are sufficiently close together to support an Out-of-Time Witness Statement that you updated your V5C promptly on moving house. It is a postal PCN so the PCN date will be some days after the contravention date.
Advice is to pay the bailiff, because you are only at the compliance fee stage, (£75). If they visit your address they will add on £235. Both these amounts are statutory, so you cannot object to them. Paying the bailiff has no effect on whether your OOT WS will be accepted at TEC.
The £115 is the council debt, made up of: -
- the original PCN amount, (£70)
- then 50% added for a Charge Certificate, (£35)
- then £10 for registration of the debt at the TEC.
You need two forms, (1) Form TE7 to request your WS be accepted OOT, and (2) Form TE9 which is the Witness Statement in which you say why you are submitting it. Both of these can be downloaded from the TEC website. Ignore their incorrect text that says these are just for DART Charge etc. They are for use with all contraventions under the Traffic Management Act 2004 as well
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-enforcement-centre-forms
As you are very new to UK motoring and bailiff law, I suggest you contact: -
www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
to make sure you fill the forms in correctly. If you don't, the Traffic Enforcement Centre will just reject them.
Even if they are accepted, this does not get the original PCN cancelled. ALl your declaration gets you to is the original PCN stage, and you can then appeal it or pay it.
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You don't necessarily have the right to appeal as that is time limited. However if you did update your vehicle's registered keeper address promptly and this was just unfortunate timing you have a reasonable chance of getting the PCN reset and the bailiff fees refunded.
Others know more about the process than me so see what they say.
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Hi everyone,
I received a notice of enforcement from JACOBS today (issued on 02/03/2026) for a PCN from Trafford Council dated from 22/09/2025.
I never before received any mail / email notification regarding this (around that time I was moving from Liverpool to Manchester but I changed the registered address of the car quite promptly upon moving).
Can view evidence here : https://pcnportal.trafford.gov.uk/VEH/Live/3sc/3sc-us/
Reg no: DK62KWO
PCN: TR80413065
To be fair, I come from Greece where there are no YBJ and up until today I was not familiar with the relevant traffic rules regarding them.
I would like to ask the following two questions please:
1. Are there reasonable grounds to appeal the whole penalty itself?
2. Can I appeal the extra cost of JACOBS involvement (debt 115gbp + compliance stage fee 75gbp) as it is the very first time I receive any notification of this penalty?
Thank you very much for any support.