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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: badrav on March 03, 2026, 08:08:13 am

Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on April 22, 2026, 12:54:53 pm
Why does it need my registration?
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: tincombe on April 22, 2026, 12:13:05 pm
VRM ?
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on April 22, 2026, 10:53:41 am
?
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on April 16, 2026, 04:42:47 pm
Thanks both, attached

Yes details on V5 are correct


The letter

https://ibb.co/hxgmHvgD

https://ibb.co/fzJz1JfC



The evidence

https://ibb.co/rKs2YwjS
https://ibb.co/VYH1yxfV
https://ibb.co/21jbXyvK
https://ibb.co/KpdYwqyh

The no loading sign is no where near the parked area where the kerb loading stripes have been worn away, except at the end of the road
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: tincombe on April 13, 2026, 10:10:26 am
however having reviewed our Officer’s evidence I am
satisfied that the signage and markings are sufficiently clear for a motorist to
establish that a loading restriction is in place


I don't see how we can comment because we've not seen the 'Officer's evidence'.

In addition to posting their reply you must let us have the VRM so we can access this evidence and advise. This is exactly the evidence an adjudicator would see.
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: Incandescent on April 13, 2026, 10:04:26 am
Please post their letter.

The next stage is they will serve a Notice to Owner to the person and address on the V5C Registration Certificate. Is this you, and is it up-to-date ?
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on April 13, 2026, 06:22:14 am
@Incandescent

Rejected

'The penalty charge notice was issued to the vehicle because it was parked on a
double yellow line loading restriction. Loading restrictions are indicated by yellow
chevrons on the kerb and the times are shown on the nearby post mounted
plates. If a loading restriction is in force a contravention is committed as soon as a
vehicle is seen at the kerbside with or without the engine running and not in a
stationary queue of traffic. I regret that as the disabled badge scheme does not
allow badge holders to park on a loading restriction we are unable to withdraw the
penalty.

Your comments regarding the signage and markings in respect of this restriction
have been considered, however having reviewed our Officer’s evidence I am
satisfied that the signage and markings are sufficiently clear for a motorist to
establish that a loading restriction is in place'

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: Incandescent on March 09, 2026, 05:53:59 pm
The sign is very close, almost right by your car, if I understand correctly where you parked. On the other hand, if the kerb blips were almost gone as it seems is the case, then you have been mislead by inadequate signage. Adequacy of signage is a duty on the council under Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18

So I suggest you submit representations based on this, and also point out you are a BB holder, and rely on clear sign  indications when parking with your BB on yellow lines. Post up their response when you get it.
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on March 09, 2026, 12:09:01 pm
Sorry post doesnt refresh didnt see

@Incandescent and others

Parked exactly here  https://ibb.co/PZB9wJMp

Its on the edge of double yellow with blue badge
https://ibb.co/ksTRtBJM

The no waiting restriction lines are pretty much rubbed off the kerb where it was parked, the only one you can see is at the start of the double yellow way away from where it was parked,

when I went back to take a closer look you can only see the remnants of the kerb line https://ibb.co/WNz1MVXg

Any thoughts?  I have to send appeal today if its not going to double the fine
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: stamfordman on March 03, 2026, 07:09:44 pm
Post the PCN number and VRM.
Title: Re: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: Incandescent on March 03, 2026, 05:08:21 pm
Please tell us exactly where your car was parked.
Title: Rotherfield Road Sutton Council
Post by: badrav on March 03, 2026, 08:08:13 am
Any advice on this?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B021'53.4%22N+0%C2%B009'29.9%22W/@51.3650186,-0.1589924,19.25z/data=!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d51.364834!4d-0.158298


https://ibb.co/tM9sRZ6p
https://ibb.co/wZMQzwZr