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General discussion => The Flame Pit => Topic started by: Hippocrates on February 27, 2026, 04:05:38 pm
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It's all Greek to me. Nothing has been the same since they stopped teaching children Roman numerals. In fact I'm LIVID!
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Don't worry, viewers. We're going to make sure he gets the help he needs.
How about R.A.G.?
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Don't worry, viewers. We're going to make sure he gets the help he needs.
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@andy_foster How about if some Greek Doctor set up an action group=locus standi? Or a Ltd. company?
Remember NMAG?
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@tincombe Thank you for your post. There is some urgency in this so most of the other routes are too time-consuming in terms of a resolution. No doubt, they may well be taken up by residents who ACTUALLY care. But, many people just sit on their ***** and cannot be ***** to do anything abut it - UNTIL they get a ticket.
Press are waiting to bite again. Cannot say anymore.
https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/that-kingston-box-junction/msg95659/#msg95659
Also, I hope to contact the counsel in the Croydon case very very shortly.
https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/croydon-croydon-ltns-ruled-unlawful-as-high-court-finds-they-were-used-to-boost-/
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Coming to this late, but it seems as if all internal processes have yet to be exhausted e.g. complaint to council's Chief internal Auditor, a challenge to the external auditor regarding the council's accounts* etc. Also, as I read it, the council are undertaking a review. Have enquiries been made regarding how this is to be conducted e.g. is any external opinion being sought and if so from whom, when and how will the outcome be published etc?
*- I think there are conditions which apply:https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights.pdf
Extract from DfT submission to Transport Select Committee:
The authority’s auditor may decline to certify the accounts of a local authority that has used on-street parking income (and all enforcement income) in a way that is not in accordance with the provisions of section 55 of the Road Traffic
Regulation Act. Local authorities are ultimately responsible to their electorate to deliver effective parking strategies and use any revenue surpluses appropriately.
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Radio Jackie interview tomorrow.
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https://www.pastpaperhero.com/resources/uk-legal-definition-of-locus-standi
Views please. At the point of putting the ink in the pen.
How about ftla being an interested group?
@mrmustard I will give you a call as I could add the person whose case was refused recently. I feel emboldened by the contents of this link. I also have 2 cases outstanding at representations stage.
Summary Checklist
Define the cause of action and the forum (JR vs private law vs statute).
Apply the correct standing test:
JR: sufficient interest (SCA 1981 s.31(3)).
Contract: privity or CRTPA 1999.
Tort: direct damage to the claimant.
Nuisance: proprietary interest in land.
HRA: claimant is a “victim” (HRA 1998 s.7).
For organisations: show a clear link to affected members and why the group is a proper claimant.
Evidence the connection: harm, location, membership, authorisations, and participation history.
If standing is doubtful, consider adding a directly affected individual or using alternative routes.
Prepare for a permission‑stage debate on standing in JR; link the seriousness and arguability of the claim to the interest asserted.
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Thought so! But, what about the contents of the link?
What about it? It says pretty much what I said, but with more details and authorities.
The most positive part is where something needs challenging, the person seeking to challenge might be able to make a half decent fist of it, and nobody else is likely to be in a position to do so.
What it does not explicitly address, which your OP did, is that you don't want to come across as some sort of nucking futter (or vexatious in legal speak). Remember that you are a serious advocate with a lot of diligent research and experience behind you, who dons the mask of humour to draw attention to issues that might otherwise be overlooked (even if the evidence suggests otherwise).
Appreciated.
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Thought so! But, what about the contents of the link?
What about it? It says pretty much what I said, but with more details and authorities.
The most positive part is where something needs challenging, the person seeking to challenge might be able to make a half decent fist of it, and nobody else is likely to be in a position to do so.
What it does not explicitly address, which your OP did, is that you don't want to come across as some sort of nucking futter (or vexatious in legal speak). Remember that you are a serious advocate with a lot of diligent research and experience behind you, who dons the mask of humour to draw attention to issues that might otherwise be overlooked (even if the evidence suggests otherwise).
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How about ftla being an interested group?
Absolutely not! I’m not being on the hook for costs in a JR.
Thought so! But, what about the contents of the link?
BTW: the only costs they may get from me are: 4 out of 5 of my goldfish; 2 out of 3 of my violins; 1 out of 2 of my amplifier/speakers; 1 out of 2 of my cars; and my whole body for scientific research. Or a pound a week.
The legal issue
Two officers - Hill and Hamide (ultra vires) - and two councillors - Heap and Hendersen - said they would not switch off the camera because that would have "financial and budgetary implications."
Please see:
https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/croydon-croydon-ltns-ruled-unlawful-as-high-court-finds-they-were-used-to-boost-/msg112308/#msg112308
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At a more recent meeting, Laurel and Hardy said they could not make decisions. It was for the councillors.
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How about ftla being an interested group?
Absolutely not! I’m not being on the hook for costs in a JR.
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https://www.pastpaperhero.com/resources/uk-legal-definition-of-locus-standi
Views please. At the point of putting the ink in the pen.
How about ftla being an interested group?
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#5. Pedantically, there is no “present” council. Same council, different administration.
As an RBK resident, I wish you luck.
PM sent.
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Oh well, there are many roads to Rome I guess.
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#5. Pedantically, there is no “present” council. Same council, different administration.
As an RBK resident, I wish you luck.
Corrected. Thanks. Sorry as I have had a tough day on taxi duties between Heathrow and Gatwick and back home and then straight into a review hearing which I won.
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#5. Pedantically, there is no “present” council. Same council, different administration.
As an RBK resident, I wish you luck.
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Broadly speaking, do you have a current interest in the issue, or do you have sufficient standing to bring a claim for the benefit of those that do?
IMHO, #3 is the only one that has any semblance of legs, with #4 and #5 perhaps adding a degree of credibility.
N.B. Nobody outside of the Administrative Court is qualified to answer your question.
The only example I am aware of from personal experience is the Consumers' Association appearing as an interested party in the Supreme Court in Beavis.
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Guess which one? Yes: RBK.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/transport/south-london-driver-plans-legal-33353798
Do the following satisfy locus standi please:
1. Previously worked in the borough at a Public High School for Girls.
2. Previously entertained people pre-Covid in the Market Square and, post-Covid, for charity.
3. Representative of various people v the council in box junctions, bus lane and parking legislations. Two pending cases. Three won at the said location out of three.
4. Liberal Democrat Leader sought my advice re Surbiton Crescent fiasco some 9 years ago which led to them scrapping it.
5. Present council administration (Lib. Dems.)listened to my health and safety concerns re Eden Street Bus lane camera not catching motorcyclists and moved the camera.