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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: RipOffPCN on February 24, 2026, 01:57:56 pm
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Thanks to all. Sterling work, as always.
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The danger with adding points about what the driver may or may not have done is that the IAS will sieze on these and “rebut” them but will ignore the non-PoFA issue.
Personally I’d stick to the simple single irrefutable appeal point, for what it’s worth.
What the driver might be liable for isn’t an issue here, I suggest.
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Contradictor signage / markings should also feature in the appeal.
'Double Yellows' do NOT mean 'No Stopping' and , as such, double yellows in a no stopping zone is clearly contradictory and this is contra to the operators Code of Practice.
A brief stop to allow passengers to enter and exit is completely allowable under double yellow lines.
If they wish to enforce a no stopping zone then the correct markings would be 'double reds'.
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You need to appeal to the IAS, expanding on the one key point under which the registered keeper can be held liable in place of the driver, from https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
(4)The notice must be given by—
(a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or
(b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.
(5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which the specified period of parking ended.
Then point out that presumed delivery on 12 February is beyond this period.
Also point out that the operator says they are not trying to use PoFA anyway. So the unknown driver remains liable, the known registered keeper does not.
They probably reject your appeal anyway, because they are not independent, but it’s part of the process you should follow even so.
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Hi, my appeal has - of course - been refused.
I just wanted to doublecheck - should I ignore their latest email refusing the appeal (asking again for £60 before it goes up to £100) or reply again, repeating your earlier advice, copied below:
I am the registered keeper.
You state that your notice is not attempting to use PoFA to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
As your notice is not PoFA compliant I will not be accepting any liability for the outstanding parking charges.
The driver is not known to you and I will not be providing any driver details.
Your options are;
Cancel the notice
OR
Dismiss the appeal and refer this to the IAS
Thanks very much!!!
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You (well, the registered keeper) can simply say
I am the registered keeper.
You state that your notice is not attempting to use PoFA to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
As your notice is not PoFA compliant I will not be accepting any liability for the outstanding parking charges.
The driver is not known to you and I will not be providing any driver details.
Your options are;
Cancel the notice
OR
Dismiss the appeal and refer this to the IAS
Many thanks,
xxxxxx xxxxxxxx
The IAS is useless and unlikely to uphold an appeal if it’s not cancelled, but if you stay the course it’s very unlikely to make it to court. Plus the IAS will cost them something like £23.
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Also, am I better posting or emailing my reply - or does it not matter which way I tell them where to go?
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Thank you! If you could post the correct wording - or direct me to where I can find it - that would be very much appreciated.
What a great website this is!
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The dates show that, issued on 10 February, the notice is too late to transfer liability from the unknown driver to the registered keeper, with presumed delivery on 12 February being more than 14 days after the alleged transgression on 28 January.
So indeed they can not use PoFA to transfer liability and say that they’re not doing.
Their statement that they can assume you were the driver is complete twaddle. They make untrue statements like this in the hope that you will believe them and pay up.
You “appeal” by telling them that you’re not liable and not going to pay, essentially. It’s a common form of words which, if I find it, I will post here.
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These files show the redacted notice.
The route in - which does have signage. But only on the way in - this was the evening before when it was dark and the signage is to your left on the wall. There is a much smaller sign a little further ahead on a metal pole.
The other photos show the route out of the car park. I turned out and spotted a workmate - stopped for seconds on the double yellows - and they jumped in. There isn't any readable signage when you turn out of the car park (where I stopped). A bit further ahead there is a very small sign on a metal pole but this wasn't in vision where I stopped (very briefly!).
https://imgpile.com/p/OSg97lp
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Please read the links I provided - specifically please leave dates and times readable as requested.
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Hopefully this will work!
https://storage.to/GC7fiDna5
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https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
and
https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/posting-images/#new
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Okay, any idea how I post a pic? Sorry for my lack of techno knowledge :)
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Yes.
If it’s “non-PoFA” then we need to see why, but if it is then the liability can’t be transferred from driver to the registered keeper.
The legislation change means that PoFA can be used because the land is now “relevant land” but if the notice doesn’t comply with the requirements of the legislation, as its title appears to indicate, then the transfer can’t be made if the driver is not identified.
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I can post a redacted copy of the letter if this helps.
Thanks!
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Hi,
Any help/advice gratefully received.
My other half received a parking charge for stopping on the double yellows outside the car park/Leeds station. There was no traffic in front or behind - I was there literally for seconds as a friend jumped into the car. The registered keeper wasn't with me.
The notice is described as Postal - Non PoFA, issued on private land (the incident happened well after the recent rule change in December.
I am not the registered keeper of the car.
The notice was received 15 days after the supposed offence.
How should I proceed? I'm a bit thrown by the conflicting advice I've seen online.
Thanks in advance.