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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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Seems to me you were probably being courteous and wanting to let someone in or out. Still not a contravention.
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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Quote from: stamfordman on October 25, 2024, 10:32:52 pm
Seems to me you were probably being courteous and wanting to let someone in or out. Still not a contravention.
@stamfordman
That's what actually happend on junction. As soon as I saw the car approaching either sides i stopped to give way but then I realise its yellow box so I moved. I might add that argument and skip the not remembering part. Thanks again for your valuable advise
 Will discuss with @Hippocrates before hearing.
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #47 on: »
Just rescheduled it.
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #48 on: »
Edited.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2024, 06:49:25 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #49 on: »
Won on the space being available - just!  Phew! Anyway, we'll see what he says tomorrow. They demanded £130 for this one! £110 for the other one. Same location.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2024, 07:32:50 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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Excellent.

Out of interest (as it crops up frequently for Redbridge cases), was the vague location argument struck down or wasn't considered due to the space being available.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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Quote from: MrChips on November 04, 2024, 07:41:13 pm
Excellent.

Out of interest (as it crops up frequently for Redbridge cases), was the vague location argument struck down or wasn't considered due to the space being available.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

He wasn't with me for the usual reasons of those who say the exact location is not necessary. I gave him the two cases. And I stressed the lack of addressing the issue in the NOR. Well at least in the other case.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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@stamfordman
@MrChips
@Hippocrates
At last today it comes to end and we have won the appeal and PCN is cancelled.
I would say thank you all of you for your support and guidance throughout this process. I will share the decision letter by tomorrow when they will send it to me so you guys can help more people. Once again thank you guys.
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
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The images show that the vehicle did enter this box junction marking when there appeared to be sufficient space beyond it to exit. The vehicle did then stop in the box as vehicles appeared to be trying to turn Notice to Owner it from both the left and the right side. The Appellant’s vehicle does not appear to stop within the box due to the presence of a stationary vehicle ahead.

The Adjudicator is only able to decide an appeal by making findings of fact on the basis of the evidence actually produced by the parties and applying relevant law.

Considering carefully all the evidence before me I cannot find as a fact that, on this particular occasion, a contravention did occur.

Accordingly, this appeal must be allowed.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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