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Hi everyone, I’ve just received a Penalty Charge Notice from Redbridge Council for allegedly entering a pedestrian zone (code 53J) on Charter Avenue on 24/04/2026 at around 16:04. The notice says it was captured by a roadside camera, and the fine is £160 (£80 if paid within 14 days). I don’t recall seeing any clear signage at the time, so I’m wondering if I may have grounds to appeal. Has anyone dealt with something similar in this area or successfully challenged a PCN like this? Any advice on what to check or how to approach an appeal would be really appreciated.

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You can see the signs in the first photo on your PCN. A look on GSV shows them as absurdly high, something we are increasingly seeing in London, but so far, I don't think this height issue has been tested at London Tribunals. The signs could be mounted lower, because the blue signs are not traffic signs at all, and there is no need for a camera sign either.
However, there are advance warning signs: -
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This makes any representations more difficult, because these strongly support the test of "adequacy"

Are you aware of the meaning of these "flying motorbike" signs ?

 Thanks, that’s really helpful. I did notice the signs in the PCN images, but I agree they look unusually high, and I honestly don’t recall seeing them when driving through. If they’re mounted higher than typical, that does make me question whether they’re sufficiently visible to drivers in real conditions.

That’s interesting about the blue signs and camera signage not being required as well — I hadn’t considered that. Do you think it’s worth pursuing an appeal on the basis that the overall signage (especially the height/placement) isn’t adequate, even if this specific point hasn’t really been tested at London Tribunals yet? Or would I need stronger grounds alongside that?

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hi is there any update on this please?

hi is there any update on this please?

Hi Ray, read the message above posted by Hippocrates. Might be able to get out of it with that response. This also means having to most likely have the council deny your first appeal and going to the tribunal. It is also best to argue you did not see the signs due to a large van infront so there was not enough warning and when making the turn, there is not enough time to read the signage without stopping in the middle of the road or doing an unsafe procedure. Arguing also that you turned in due to a safety issue works too but most likely they'll reject it as the councils are trying to find ways to get money out of the working people.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lb-havering-code-31j-entering-and-stopping-in-a-box-junction/msg97394/#msg97394

"The PCN is missing mandatory information as provided at Para. 4 (8 ) (v) of




(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased

charge may be payable.

Clearly, this refers to Para. 4 (8 ) (iii):

(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning

with the date of the notice;

Therefore, it follows that the statement: "If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240 may be payable” adds to the lack of clarity by its omission. Even on its own, whether the required information was included or not, it is also arguable that it conflates the two periods using the word "or" which many would view as being conjunctive. Furthermore, even if the statement were to be interpreted disjunctively, there is still no clarity due to the missing information. So, it follows that it cannot possibly be interpreted disjunctively."

If you follow the post you can see he won an appeal. He linked it with a GDrive too:

Have a read and see if your letter has the same exact wording

many thanks for your response