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So you found a PCN on your van dated 6th June on the 10th July. The location on the PCN was where you were parked, and there was a CEO present who told you you were not parked properly in the bay.

So was it this CEO who served the PCN on the 10th July, or had you just missed seeing the PCN on your van ? The PCN says it was served on the 6th June, so if this isn't the case, then they have committed a procedural impropriety.

Anyway, I suggest that in order to protect your option of taking them to London Tribunals, you must submit a formal representation, but we need to know the full circumstances of how you managed to get a PCN claiming to be served on the 6th June on the 10th July several weeks later.

It looks like a complete ****-up, or maybe something more criminal.

Certainly you now need to submit a formal representation against the NtO: -

Dear Sirs

Re PCN <number> dated 6th June 2024 served on 10th July 2024 at Farnham Road, Harold Hill

I deny responsibility for the above PCN on the grounds that the offence did not occur

The above PCN is claimed as served to my vehicle at 06.41 on 6th June 2024, yet was only placed on my van on the 10th July. The CEO who served it was present at the time and told me that I was not parked within the bay.

Apart from service not occurring on the 6th June, I can advise you that at 06.41 on 6th June, I was in bed asleep at my house and my van was parked at <location> .

Clearly there is something seriously wrong within your department and the workings of your CEO officers. Service of a PCN dated 6th June and claimed served at 06.41, several weeks later on the 10th July, is a clear procedural impropriety and surely must be approaching a test of criminal conduct on the part of your CEO.  I therefore demand that the PCN be immediately cancelled. If it is not, I shall not hesitate to register an appeal at London Tribunals.

Yours faithfully

You need to say where the van was on 6th July in the above reps.  Don't fail to submit reps before the deadline or you could miss any option to go to London Tribunals.

Just to add something.
You must have your facts absolutely correct on your reps. From your narrative, the key issue is that the PCN you found on your van on the 10th July was not for that date but for 6th June. You also spoke to the CEO who had served it on the 10th who told you why it had been served.

The photo of your van on 10th July does show it partly straddling the hatched markings, so a PC dated and served on the 10th July would be lawfully served.

Are you the only person who drives your van ? And are you sure the PCN dated 6th June was the one you found in the yellow envelope on the 10th July. I ask because in all the years I have been giving advice on forums like this, going back to the 90s, I have never heard of a situation like this. So please confirm my interpretation of the situation is correct.

We need the PCN number so that the council's website can be checked to see whether there are any photos associated with the PCN issued on 6 June.

Just to add something.
You must have your facts absolutely correct on your reps. From your narrative, the key issue is that the PCN you found on your van on the 10th July was not for that date but for 6th June. You also spoke to the CEO who had served it on the 10th who told you why it had been served.

The photo of your van on 10th July does show it partly straddling the hatched markings, so a PC dated and served on the 10th July would be lawfully served.

Are you the only person who drives your van ? And are you sure the PCN dated 6th June was the one you found in the yellow envelope on the 10th July. I ask because in all the years I have been giving advice on forums like this, going back to the 90s, I have never heard of a situation like this. So please confirm my interpretation of the situation is correct.

Yes I am the only driver. Yes the pcn (dated 6 June) was the one received on 10 July
And I agree that my photo shows my van on the hatched markings and suspect they would have had me bang to rights if the details was all correct.

Quote from: Incandescent on July 19, 2024, 10:25:51 am

Just to add something.
You must have your facts absolutely correct on your reps. From your narrative, the key issue is that the PCN you found on your van on the 10th July was not for that date but for 6th June. You also spoke to the CEO who had served it on the 10th who told you why it had been served.

The photo of your van on 10th July does show it partly straddling the hatched markings, so a PC dated and served on the 10th July would be lawfully served.

Are you the only person who drives your van ? And are you sure the PCN dated 6th June was the one you found in the yellow envelope on the 10th July. I ask because in all the years I have been giving advice on forums like this, going back to the 90s, I have never heard of a situation like this. So please confirm my interpretation of the situation is correct.

Yes I am the only driver. Yes the pcn (dated 6 June) was the one received on 10 July
And I agree that my photo shows my van on the hatched markings and suspect they would have had me bang to rights if the details was all correct.

All I can suggest, therefore, is you submit representations on the lines I gave you.

Where was the van parked on the 6th June at 06.41 ?