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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2025, 04:44:37 pm »
I will draft something later tonight. I will also visit their site.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2025, 04:45:50 pm »
Thank you! I really appreciate the help
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2025, 11:05:35 pm »
Quote from: skywalks on March 10, 2025, 04:45:50 pm
Thank you! I really appreciate the help
Sorry: tomorrow.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2025, 11:03:55 am »
No problem! Thank you, I really appreciate it
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2025, 10:56:54 am »
I think I might need to try send some form of representation today as i'm aware the days are getting away and they'll also then need to respond. I don't want to end up paying a much higher fine. Any last minutes tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2025, 05:41:01 pm »
I am working on it.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2025, 05:49:40 pm »
Okay, thank you! I will hold off sending in my representation for a little bit longer.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2025, 06:26:54 pm »
Doing this in bits:

Website firstly is wrong:

Representation Grounds
Select all that apply, you have the opportunity to add additional information on the next screen.
Any other ground
General Representation
I was not the owner of the vehicle
Procedural impropriety
The ceo was not prevented from serving the pcn
The contravention did not occur
The order was invalid
The pcn has been paid
The penalty charge exceeded the amount
The vehicle was taken without my consent
We are a hire firm

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May/will re service of a charge certificate.

Signage and warning signage do not align.

Contravention?

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Sorry as I am dealing with lots of stuff at this very moment.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2025, 09:51:19 am »
Great thank you for all the research you are doing! I really appreciate it. I'm hoping to send it by this evening, so I will check in later and clarify with you the other bits I should include E.g. What about the website is wrong? And the other areas you've highlighted.

Thanks again! Have a good morning and speak soon
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2025, 10:02:40 am »
Thanks for your patience. I am checking  a few issues with cp8759 and will hopefully get back this evening.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2025, 03:12:58 pm »
That would be great, thank you!
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2025, 03:53:02 pm »
We have until 3rd April to make representations. A week before that to pay. I need to spend some more time on this and make a FOIR re the camera as advised by cp8759.  The signs are interchangeable I am afraid.

The may/will issue is a valid point. I need to dig out some cases.

So, please wait and do not pay it.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2025, 06:29:33 pm »
Okay, thank you!

I want to try send it in fairly promptly as I can as I want to make sure the discounted charge doesn't go up and I end up having to pay double. They also took nearly 3 weeks to send me the letter in the first place. But I will wait until you've had some more time to find the answers you're looking for.

By interchangeable signs do you mean that the rectangle or circle signs can be used for either a bus lane or bus gate?

It'll be important to add to the representation that 2 different SCC staff advised me to challenge it 1) Because they confirmed it was a bus gate and not a bus lane so the place listed is wrong and 2) the 2nd staff member was confused by the representation options on the back of the letter.

Thanks
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2025, 11:55:20 am »
I am just writing the FOIR re the camera.
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Re: Surrey CC Woking, 34j - Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement) - High street woking
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2025, 05:45:55 pm »
Sent a PM. Please phone them re their policy to reoffer the discount if reps. are refused.
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