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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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But surely like a driving fine for speeding this can go in the name of the person who did it?

I would need to address it in the next letter so that my wife isn’t taken to court and it’s me who is :-)
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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Quote from: Jrc1234 on September 27, 2024, 05:07:02 pm
But surely like a driving fine for speeding this can go in the name of the person who did it?

I would need to address it in the next letter so that my wife isn’t taken to court and it’s me who is :-)

There's no fine and no court: it is penalty and tribunal.
Have a read of
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process

wherever 'you' is mentioned, it means the registered keeper. So as I said before, everything now is in your wife's name..
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
« Reply #47 on: »
Noted.

So for the next stage of appeal this is the independent adjudicator then after is the tribunal?

When would I get my wife to sign that I am doing this ?
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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Quote from: Jrc1234 on September 27, 2024, 05:41:49 pm
Noted.

So for the next stage of appeal this is the independent adjudicator then after is the tribunal?

When would I get my wife to sign that I am doing this ?

Why make it more complicated? Yes it will be Tribunal time and they haven't turned up for the last 4 cases I have done so that will be it. If I lose a bus lane PCN, I always pay half. None so far! In the last cases their officers were pretty clueless.

Just ask your wife to send this to: wfpcn@nsl.co.uk

Dear WF

Ref:  PCN No and EN

I am the registered keeper though not the driver on the day in question. I require you to consider the original challenge as formal representations. In light of them, please cancel both notices.

Yours

Mrs. Jrc1234
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 06:27:49 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
« Reply #49 on: »
Noted on that thanks for the help.

Can I send this from my email address? (as she’s not good at checking for emails and I don’t want to miss this one)
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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Quote from: Jrc1234 on September 27, 2024, 06:36:03 pm
Noted on that thanks for the help.

Can I send this from my email address? (as she’s not good at checking for emails and I don’t want to miss this one)

Yes. They like to have the PCN and VRM in the header and give your full address etc.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 08:48:37 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
« Reply #51 on: »
Morning Hippocrates and the forum!

Hope everyone has had a good weekend.

So as expected today I received the letter - Notice of Rejection of Representation when I sent back the appeal for the second time.

They have now sent me with the letter the Notice of Appeal to the traffic adjudicator.

I have attached the letter I received for you reference.

Link - https://imgur.com/a/DPzX2bR

Do let me know what you would advise for the next steps.

Thanks
j
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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Usual BS from them. I will drop you a PM so the appeal can be filed. They do not have a certificate from 2009!
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
« Reply #53 on: »
Morning Hippocrates!

Trust your weekend was good!

Thanks for the update and will look out for a PM.

This council never gives up do they! Lol
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Re: Whipps Cross Road Bus Lane Fine
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;D  ;)  8)

Paragraph 7(6) Rules OK! Let's go for costs. The usual nonsense claim that they had a certificate from 2009 and the WS referred to parking law. FGS! No wonder they did not turn up - although they never intended to do so in the first place.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2024, 07:39:44 am by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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